I never thought I'd ever have the chance to be on such a high-profile talk show.

It's like when I regularly watch "Sherlock" and then I get a call from the show's director:

Hi Stephen, Benedict Cumberbatch has recently fallen ill and can no longer play Sherlock. You'll be on the next season of Sherlock.

Andrew laughed: "Although your praise sounds very nice to me, this magical event concerns all of us Londoners."

Therefore, I will not go easy on you during the rest of the interview.

Stephen shook his head: "I'm telling the truth, I'm not trying to bribe you with words."

Please trust my integrity as National Security Advisor.

Andrew inwardly despised the integrity of politicians, but outwardly he had to pretend to believe them.

Hosts also need acting skills, especially when the interviewee or program guest suddenly goes crazy. Without acting skills, a host might easily lose control of their expression.

Stephen Lovegrove served in the current administration for a decade.

He was the Permanent Secretary of the Department of Energy and Climate Change in 2013, the Permanent Secretary of the Department of Defense in 2016, and then served as National Security Advisor in 2021.

He made similar remarks years ago: China poses a national security challenge to England.

Therefore, it was criticized by name by the Chinese side.

Andrew said directly, "Since you're so confident, then I won't hold back. All the questions I'm going to ask today are the ones that Londoners are most concerned about right now."

The entire city of London is now under lockdown, and no outsiders are allowed to enter.

The general public in London is actively cooperating for the safety of the city.

They have the right to know.

Stephen, with his gray hair, nodded and said, "Yes, I will answer all your questions."

Andrew asked, "First of all, when did the London government become aware of the existence of magicians outside of its control in London?"

Stephen: "At the end of last year, at the press conference of Kechuang Biotechnology, Water Element caused a scene. Our timing is no different from what you know."

Andrew: "When did you find out that everyone could learn magic?"

Stephen looked thoughtful for a moment, then said, "About two weeks ago."

Andrew: "Why wasn't it announced at the time?"

Stephen explained, "We wanted to have a fully developed solution before releasing it."

Keep in mind that London is a city with a population of nearly ten million.

Not everything needs to be announced; we hope to keep things within a certain scope.

Andrew laughed and said, "So you lost control in the end, and only announced the news after you lost control, right?"

This BBC program was specifically arranged by 10 Downing Street to deflect blame.

However, this does not mean that the BBC will necessarily cooperate with them. In the BBC's view, specifically asking you to go on stage is already helping you out of a predicament.

Whether or not the public opinion can be changed depends on the abilities of the people you send.

The BBC originally thought Boris Johnson would come in person, but he only sent Stephen Johnson.

Boris Johnson might be somewhat accommodating to the BBC and avoid asking too many pointed questions.

Unfortunately, it was Stephen who arrived; Andrew was proceeding entirely at his own pace.

Stephen: "Things are not completely out of control. We chose to make this public because we need the help of the general public in London."

Andrew looked shocked: "Dozens of Londoners have died, London is under lockdown, and you still say it's not out of control?"

What exactly constitutes "out of control"?

He was somewhat impressed by the other party's shamelessness.

Actually, the "Andrew Marr Interview" program also has some connection with China. In 2020, the Chinese ambassador to England appeared on the program.

This news can still be found on the official website of the Chinese ambassador to England.

(This is the same news article that describes this interview program as a high-end, flagship interview program.)

Stephen showed no embarrassment whatsoever: "Yes, it's too early to talk about things getting out of control."

Magic is a completely new subject for Earth.

Regardless of which city on Earth this magical anomaly in London occurs in, it will be impossible to prevent those who have learned magic from using it for evil.

This was not due to the incompetence of the London government, but rather to the bewilderment of humanity as it began to face the unknown.

However, we have now found a direction, and the reason we are releasing this information is to prevent similar incidents from happening again.

When you're being criticized, the classic tactic is to drag someone else into it, saying they did the same thing wrong, and criticize them too.

Or he did worse than me, so why not criticize him first?

The biggest flaw in this rhetoric is that if the target is you, what does it have to do with everyone else?

Andrew knew he couldn't continue being so aggressive, so he changed his approach and asked:

"When did you find out that these random deaths all over London were related to magic?"

Stephen became more alert and said cautiously, "I only found out recently, probably ten days ago."

Because I remember the London city government issued a notice at the time saying that people should try not to go out at night, and those living alone should remember to lock their doors and windows.

Andrew asked, "Why wasn't the truth revealed back then?"

This was within Stephen's expectations; he had prepared for it beforehand: "Because we need to catch the murderer, if we rashly release the information, it might alert him."

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