"That's not as nice as mine!"

A familiar voice even mocked in the dark.

"Your Majesty." Hu Hongxiu hurriedly explained after hearing these reactions. "I am not saying that you should not consider whether my views are trustworthy or not, or ignore our internal differences..."

"You might as well not say it!"

The clamor immediately turned into laughter, and the man from before continued to mock.

"It's okay, talk nicely, and take your time." Although Zhao Jiu also felt a little angry and ridiculous, he still maintained a tolerant attitude, because he just remembered when the lights were turned on that this person was Mr. Wang's background, with both qualifications and merits, but he was still a soldier, and he often ordered him around, so he actually wanted to promote him. "What do you mean?"

"What I mean is..." Hu Hongxiu responded earnestly. "Don't just speculate whether I can be trusted, don't just speculate whether the Jurchens will send Yan'an away, and don't just speculate whether the Xixia people will accept Yan'an. Instead, you need to file these things layer by layer, wrap them layer by layer, and then peel off the outermost layer, so that you can look down from a high position and respond calmly."

In the silence, Zhao Jiu was thoughtful: "What is the outermost layer?"

"It's the remnants of Northern Liao!" Hu Hongxiu replied with a folded hand. "If the remnants of Northern Liao really have the military strength of Western Xia, and Yelu Dashi is indeed a hero, and he really wants revenge, then no matter whether the Jurchens go to Yan'an or not, and whether the Western Xia accepts them or not, why can't we just unite Liao to control Xia? Besides, haven't we always thought that the war horses are restricted by the isolation of Western Xia and the Jin people? If we can defeat Xia, then the cavalry will have nothing to worry about."

"The Xixia people have a deep foundation. They have not been conquered for a hundred years. How can they be so easy to defeat?" In a moment of silence, Zhao Ding suddenly waved his sleeves, but he immediately realized that the reason why they had not been conquered for a hundred years was because the Xixia had always had a stable ally, the Liao Dynasty, which protected the Xixia from all sides, so he immediately added. "In the final analysis, I remember hearing about Yelu Dashi two years ago. He was only active in Mobei and had only 10,000 or 20,000 soldiers and horses. How could he have the strength to compete with Xixia in just one year? Moreover, there is a thousand miles of desert between Mobei and Xixia. How can we really attack from both sides?"

"Of course we can take a step back and think about the situation without Northern Liao's help... But we should at least contact them based on the assumption that there is a Northern Liao army, right?" Hu Hongxiu argued quickly. "Whether Yelu Dashi is successful or not is not something we can just assume. He is right there. We can see if we go to him. As for whether he can come from behind Xixia, it is determined by the local geography, not by our words..."

Hearing this, Zhao Ding finally sighed.

After this sigh, Hu Hongxiu certainly flinched for a moment, but many shrewd people in the hall had already come to their senses.

Besides, Hu Hongxiu's methodology is of course the best and most correct. There is nothing to say about it. It should be done this way... But this technical military bureaucrat did not realize that sometimes completely correct logic may not necessarily be politically correct.

Do you really think these ministers, chancellors, generals, and commanders are all fools?

When Hu Hongxiu laid out his methodology, these people actually quickly figured it out in their minds. But the problem is that today's dispute is not essentially about what to do, but about whether to focus on military activities or financial activities in the next period of time.

It is a typical struggle between conservatism and recklessness.

During the Baima-Shaoxing incident, the court eliminated a large number of conservatives and determined the general route for continuing the war in the future. Or it can be said that Zhao Jiu's fundamental purpose on that day was this, not the two saints. But to be honest, conservatives are not necessarily wrong, they just have different routes, and conservative things are relative. Unless there is only one person left, you will never lack conservatives.

Therefore, even if the conservatives who were comprehensive and fundamental at that time were eliminated on a large scale, there will still be superficial fluctuations between the established strategies and there will still be disputes.

Zhao Ding, Liu Ji, Hu Shijiang, and even Yang Yi Zhong were not maliciously obstructing or pretending to be confused, but were expressing their stance. Similarly, Zhang Jun, Chen Gui, Wang Shu, and Qu Duan were not maliciously provoking or deliberately making personal attacks, but were also expressing their stance.

Political voting is the most effective and direct means to resolve political differences and influence decision-making under normal circumstances in peacetime.

But the problem is that Emperor Zhao seems to be a little shaken and doubtful because of the hasty news and the seriousness of the matter, and even seems a little confused and bewildered. At the same time, the statements of the relevant ministers failed to form an overwhelming voting result... Two ministers against two ministers, one minister against another minister, only the prime minister has great power, but he has to consider the military and public opinion represented by many officers from Guanxi.

So, things are just in a delicate balance.

Of course, let's be fair. If Lu Yihao was here, this kind of large-scale vote would not have happened, because people who opposed him would not be here. If it was the more classical elite scholar-officials of the Song Dynasty, they would have thrown down their hats and asked Emperor Zhao, "Do you choose me or him?" The most interesting thing is of course to meet an honest person like Wen Yanbo who likes to tell the truth. When he was annoyed by such a person, he was too lazy to debate such superficial issues. He would just go up and grab Emperor Zhao, and then take off his pants for everyone to see clearly.

But the problem is, whether it is Zhao Ding or Zhang Jun, weren't they educated by Lu Haowen, and then they found that the other party voluntarily gave up their positions, so they wanted to carry on the past, make great progress, and have a court full of righteous people who talk about reason, morality, utilitarianism, and original learning?

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