Judge of the Song Dynasty

It was 1068, Year 1 of the Xining era. Emperor Zhao Xu had recently ascended the throne of the Song dynasty. The widely respected old-guard of civil officials, Ouyang Xiu, Han Qi, and Fu Bi, were i...

Chapter 163: A Judgment on the Law

Although the reformists took the initiative in the situation, Wang Anshi, as a witness, was very unhappy about it.

He felt like a target, being bullied by them over and over again, endlessly, but he had no power to fight back and had no chance to do so.

His lips were swollen and he felt uncomfortable if he didn't mutter a few words.

Am I not the protagonist?

Next time, we'll have to let Lu Huiqing do this kind of thing. We can't afford to lose face like this.

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However, as both sides continued to ask questions, the observer gradually became immersed in the issue and was no longer thinking about power and interests, but the essence of the issue.

The officials sitting here now are no good-for-nothings. They have all seen that the key point of the dispute between the two sides is the power of the Regulations Office of the Two Prefectures.

To take precautions against things and to control crookedness also means to prevent power from being too great.

This is actually the issue that they are most concerned about.

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Then, as long as we can prove that the Regulations Office of the Two Prefectures has great power, we can use this point to explain the ancestral laws we will discuss later.

vice versa.

Their voices of inquiries were the only sounds that could be heard in the huge courtyard.

Although some people were whispering to each other, they lowered their voices involuntarily, as if they were afraid of disturbing them.

But most people looked thoughtful, including Emperor Shenzong Zhao Xu.

Because there are very few court debates that can explain power so thoroughly.

Normally everyone speaks very cryptically.

As I said, those who understand will understand, no need to say it out loud.

This is why Wang Anshi glared at Zhang Fei. Your words are too explicit, not tactful at all, and not clever at all.

But after really talking about it, there are many aspects that can cause everyone to think deeply.

They also suddenly realized that some issues must be explained thoroughly, as explaining them thoroughly would be less likely to cause misunderstandings.

Zhang Fei first looked at Fan Chunren with a loving eye, thinking that he had learned very well. He stood up and asked Wang Anshi, "I don't quite understand what Fan Sijian mentioned about law and power. Could you please explain it to me, Grand Secretary Wang?"

"So that's how it is." Sima Guang nodded repeatedly, his eyes shining.

Wen Yanbo asked, "Why did you do this? What did you think of it?"

Sima Guang explained: "Don't you know the trick to litigation? Both parties can ask questions to the witnesses, and both parties only ask the answers they want. Fan Sijian did not give Wang Jiefu a chance to explain, which was obviously disadvantageous to Wang Jiefu, but Zhang San immediately gave Wang Jiefu a chance to explain. This lawsuit is really more interesting the more you watch it!"

Wen Yanbo was confused when he heard this. It turned out that our focus was completely different!

Everyone was thinking about the power of the Regulations Office of the Two Ministries, but Sima Guang was paying attention to the tricks of litigation.

what?

You want to be an ear pen.

"Of course!" Wang Anshi nodded, but he seemed powerless. This was too boring. He was really like a puppet. He asked in a depressed mood: "Do you know the relationship between the Privy Council and the Three Yamen?"

Zhang Fei nodded and said, "My understanding is that the Privy Council is responsible for issuing orders, while the three yamen are responsible for managing military affairs. Am I right?"

Wang Anshi nodded and said, "That's right. We are in charge of legislation in the two government offices, but we have no right to issue any decrees to the Secretariat and the three offices of the Privy Council. The Secretariat is still under the management of the Tongpingzhangshi, the Privy Council is still under the management of the Privy Councilor, and the three offices are still under the management of the Prime Minister."

Zhang Fei smiled and said, "Thank you." He then said to Han Qi and Fu Bi, "I have finished my questions."

Fu Bi nodded with a smile. The more he watched the play, the more interesting it became. It even made him give up his own position, as if he was exploring the truth.

As soon as he sat down, Fan Chunren stood up. He seemed to be in the right state. After all, he was Fan Zhongyan's son and had been in the court for a long time. He asked, "I heard that under the Department of Regulations of the Two Governments, there is an official position called the Xiangdu Liyiguan."

Wang Anshi nodded.

Fan Chunren asked, "Could you please ask Grand Secretary Wang to explain to us what the duties of this official who assesses interests are?"

Xu Zhiqian whispered, "Fan Sijian's speech style is becoming more and more like yours."

Zhang Fei smiled bitterly and said, "I hope that pirated products will not drive out legitimate products."

Xu Zhiqian pursed her lips and smiled, "That's not necessarily true."

Zhang Fei smiled and said, "But it definitely won't happen now. I've only used a little bit of my strength."

Xu Zhiqian looked at Zhang Fei in shock.

Wang Anshi replied: "The chief minister is mainly responsible for supervising the implementation of the new law in various places."

This time, before Fan Chunren asked, he said, "I don't deny that the minister of justice has certain supervisory powers, but at the beginning of the reform, if we don't send people who are familiar with the new law to supervise, there may be many problems in the implementation. If we can know the implementation status in time and find out if there are any inappropriate aspects, we can make appropriate adjustments immediately."

He spoke very quickly, as if he was afraid that he would not be allowed to speak.

The lawsuit is the lawsuit, but it is so uncomfortable not to allow people to speak!

Fan Chunren nodded and said with a smile, "I also think it should be so. Then, may I ask, Grand Secretary Wang, who will supervise your two government regulations office?"

When he asked this question, a smug smile finally appeared on his face.

And at the right time, a burst of cheers rang out behind him.

"good!"

“Good question!”

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Sitting behind him were all civil servants and literati, who should not have applauded like the citizens. However, from the beginning until now, Fan Chunren has been suppressed by Zhang Fei, and they are also feeling very uncomfortable!

I also need to vent.

This issue will undoubtedly put shackles on the two prefecture regulations offices.

No matter how Wang Anshi answered, they would benefit.

Many neutral parties complained about the establishment of the Two Prefectures Regulations Office because of who would restrict this department. He promulgated the Royalty Law, and the Secretariat knew about it as well as the people.

It was not discussed at the court meeting.

This is also the issue that many officials are most concerned about.

Be prepared for things to happen and control the curves, which also includes the meaning of checks and balances.

In fact, every dynasty has designed its political system to prevent one party from dominating the market.

However, facing this difficult question, Wang Anshi smiled slightly and cursed: "This stinky boy!"

Fan Chunren asked in confusion, "What did Grand Secretary Wang say?"

"ah?"

Wang Anshi shook his head and said, "I'm not talking about you."

He coughed lightly, looked at Fan Chunren, and asked with a smile: "I wonder what Fan Sijian is doing now?"

Fan Chunren was slightly stunned, and replied, "I am asking Mr. Wang."

Wang Anshi asked again: "I mean, why are you standing here?"

Seeing the smile in Wang Anshi's eyes, Fan Chunren hesitated for a moment and replied cautiously, "I am here to argue for Censor Qian."

Wang Anshi nodded and said, "What are you fighting for?"

Fan Chunren replied: "Your establishment of the two government regulations office is against the laws of our ancestors."

Wang Anshi laughed and said, "I am the Vice Prime Minister, and I am being interrogated by you, a censor. When Fan Gong and his men carried out reforms, they didn't suffer as badly as I did. And you still ask me, who supervises the two government regulations? Of course, it is supervised by the judiciary!"

Fan Chunren couldn't help but frown and pondered in silence. He suddenly realized, am I not restricting the Regulations Office of the Two Prefectures?

A feeling of shooting oneself in the foot arises spontaneously.

Zhang Fei glanced at Wang Anshi with a hint of pride, but what he got in return were two angry glances.

Xu Zhiqian, who was watching from the side, couldn't help but smile secretly and whispered, "They have no chance of winning this time."

"wrong!"

Zhang Fei said seriously: "They had no chance of winning from the beginning."

Fu Bi and Han Qi looked at each other and both shook their heads slightly.

really.

When the New Policies of the Qingli Period were at their worst, there was no mention of allowing Fan Zhongyan to sit in court and be interrogated.

Because before this, the judiciary was unable to restrict the court from making policies.

This is really the first time.

From this point of view, it is indeed a bit excessive to talk about restrictions.

After a while, Han Qi asked, "Does Fan Sijian have anything else to ask?"

Fan Chunren was stunned, shook his head, and sat down. His frustration was evident on the paper.

This problem is fatal.

Zhang Fei suddenly said to Xu Zhiqian: "Qian Yi's writing."

Xu Zhiqian immediately handed a document to Zhang Fei. After all, they had prepared less this time and didn't need to look for it much.

Zhang Fei stood up and suddenly looked at Qian Yi. Seeing that the old man seemed to be still in a trance, he bowed and said, "Imperial Censor Qian."

Qian Xi, who had been forgotten for a long time, had completely entered the spectator mode. When he heard Zhang Fei suddenly calling him, he was stunned for a moment before he reacted. He immediately perked up and looked at Zhang Fei with a hint of nervousness.

These questions are so terrible, even more terrifying than court debates!

Both sides were unscrupulous and asked questions thoroughly.

Zhang Fei flipped through the documents and asked, "As far as I know, Censor Qian once questioned and even opposed the way of studying Confucian classics by Grand Secretary Wang."

Qian Yi nodded.

"I object!"

Fan Chunren suddenly stood up and asked, "What does this have to do with this case?"

Zhang Fei replied: "The two are absolutely related, I will explain this later."

Fan Chunren asked: "Why don't you explain it now?"

Zhang Fei said, "This is why we are interrogating you. How can I answer you before Censor Qian gives his answer?"

Fan Chunren sat down.

Zhang Fei glanced at the document again and continued to ask Qian Yi: "And Censor Qian supports and agrees with some of Sima Daxueshi's ideas for reform and change."

Qian Yi nodded and said, "Yes."

Zhang Fei said, "At that time, the Regulations Office of the Two Prefectures had not yet been established. Can we say that this is just a difference in subjective concepts? The approval or opposition of Censor Qian at that time does not mean that the other party is definitely illegal or not. I wonder if Censor Qian agrees with my opinion."

Qian Yi nodded.

Zhang Fei asked, "Which way do you think is more fair and effective, your previous argument or this court dispute?"

After hearing this, Fan Chunren couldn't help but feel dejected.

Qian Yi pondered in silence.

Zhang Fei waited for a while before saying, "Regarding this question, Censor Qian should answer it according to his own thoughts. After all, the two chief judges will have their own judgments."

The implication is that it doesn't matter if you lie, I won't bully you.

Everything is already on the table, even a blind person knows the answer!

Qian Yi nodded and said, "This trial is more fair and more effective."

"Thank you for your answer, Censor Qian."

Zhang Fei then said to Han Qi and Fu Bi: "The reason I asked this question is just to prove one point. Judicial supervision is absolutely effective. In some aspects, it is even better than the supervision of the Imperial Censors. It can be said to be a perfect supplement."

Han Qi nodded and said, "Indeed! Your question is very crucial and has a great relationship with this case."

This question is undoubtedly a supplement to the previous question and provides strong support for judicial supervision.

"I have asked all my questions."

Zhang Fei sat down.

Han Qi looked at Fan Chunren again.

Fan Chunren stood up and asked, "Grand Secretary Wang, you said that the two government regulations offices should be subject to judicial supervision?"

Wang Anshi nodded.

Fan Chunren said: "Then from now on, if the two government regulations offices violate the law, anyone will have the right to file a complaint."

"I object."

Zhang Fei said: "What do you mean by anyone has the right to file a lawsuit? This lawsuit requires evidence. I still have doubts about the evidence you used in this lawsuit."

Fan Chunren said with a little embarrassment: "Yes, I didn't explain it clearly."

Zhang Fei sat back.

Fan Chunren asked again: "So in the future, if the two government regulations offices violate the law, anyone has the right to file a complaint if there is solid evidence."

Wang Anshi smiled and said, "Of course, it is not just the two government regulations offices, the Secretariat and the Privy Council are all under the supervision of the judiciary."

"Thank you very much."

Fan Chunren bowed and said to Han Qi and Fu Bi, "I have asked all my questions."

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