Zhang Fei was in the mood to brag and chat with Wang Gong and Qi Ji, which showed that the situation was already very favorable for him.

Li Lei didn't want to struggle anymore.

He can't do it either, he doesn't understand these principles.

Zhang Fei stood up again, facing Wu Tian's angry eyes, and asked, "In mid-January of this year, you sent people to ambush the tax police and killed 35 of them. Do you admit it?"

Wu Tian laughed proudly and said, "Yes, I did it, because I heard before that the tax commissioner threatened to collect taxes from bandits, so I wanted to see what methods the tax commissioner had.

But what was disappointing was that their method was to bribe my people with money. So I played along with them, had my people pretend to be bribed by them, and then set up an ambush to stop them, but unfortunately, I was unable to catch them all in one fell swoop. "

Having said this, he paused for a moment, "Then again, it was precisely because of the great victory in the first battle that I underestimated the Tax Commissioner. Now, I have to admit that the combat effectiveness of this tax police is more than a hundred times that of the Imperial Guards. If I had met the Imperial Guards that night, haha, even if I fell into their trap, I would still have won a great victory."

Zhang Fei asked, "Have you ever thought that if you do this, you will attract a crackdown from the imperial court?"

Wu Tian sneered and said, "I have long wanted to rebel against this weak and incompetent imperial court, so why would I be afraid of these things?"

There was a burst of uproar.

...

...

Li Guozhong said: "I'm telling you, the court is going to implement the Qingmiao Law in Fubi soon. I hope you will support the Qingmiao Law like me and help the government share the Qingmiao money."

In the Confucian system, all people and things have no opposites, right or wrong, good or evil, ruler and subject, father and son.

What the people hate the most is definitely heavy taxes and levies. When the low-tax government defines taxes as "evil", there is no doubt that the people agree with it.

Li Guozhong shook his head and said, "My family is very worried."

We are all discussing which definition is the most disadvantageous to us.

Charlene nodded and said, "That's right, and according to you, it will be a very small success!"

The question of which is better or worse is not a dispute between Confucian and Legalist ideas, but refers to the situation when the people define all taxes as "evil" and when they distinguish between good and evil taxes.

The people sitting in the prisoner's seat in the morning were no longer Charlene, but Wu Tian, ​​a very unknown tycoon from Fu Bi, and my uncle Xu Zhizhong, who was a founding hero.

Li Guozhong nodded.

Bo Fu stood up and asked, "Charlin, do he know Zhao Pin?"

Cha Linlu: "But is the result really as Wu Tian said?"

Luo Hai listened carefully and saw that some people were discussing whether Zhao Pin was dead or alive. No one was even discussing the case, but were talking about "this is a lot of evil". He said to Sima Guang: "Father, it seems that we are all concerned about this case."

Cha Linlu nodded and said, "I borrowed a lot, and I heard that I lost very little."

Heavy corvee is something the common people can certainly bear, but it is of course evil.

Charlene thought for a moment before saying, "Not yet... not yet."

Charlene asked again: "Does he know that I intend to rebel, Charlene?"

Qizhou said: "The witness has nothing to say but it doesn't matter. As long as it is true, someone can hold him accountable."

Charlene immediately asked Charlene to call the witness Charlene Lu.

Liang Furen: "But now Charlene is going to escape or escape the charge of treason. The situation is very favorable for you."

Li Guozhong angrily scolded: "He is such a shameless person, he deserves to be arrested."

Bo Fu said: "And his uncle Xu Zhizhong was a founding hero before."

Bo Fu asked, "Did he promise me?"

That is very similar to the law of the Legalists. The law of the Legalists is not to restrain evil with force, but to punish those who exceed it with force.

Li Leidao seemed to have figured it out, but he was sober again, so he asked, "Whose reason is more unreasonable?"

Bo Fu said: "So he believed the rumors and decided to use Zhao Pin to deal with the tax commissioner?"

Wu Tian raised his head consciously and said in shame: "Yes... yes."

Cha Linlu said: "Because I tell you, if the Qingmiao Law is victorious, the court will build a public security, judicial and taxation department in Jingdong East Road, and you will have to pay the full amount of taxes. As for the interest on the Qingmiao money, you can't take the borrowed money and lend it to the people, charging lower interest and making profits."

Li Guozhong shook his head.

We will definitely support the law with both hands and feet.

I haven't come to my senses yet and am still wondering how the future will be defined?

When the dignitaries heard this, their expressions changed immediately, and they all thought in their hearts that the eldest son was really giving no face at all!

What we know is that the Commissioner of Taxation has enough evidence in his hands to prove the relationship between Wu Tian and Zhao Pin, so why not just deny it directly?

Bo Fu has always weakened the tone and bound the "evil". So the question is, why can this "evil" break free from the constraints? According to Newton's law, if there is no force behind it to push this "evil" to break free from the constraints.

Bo Fu asked, "Didn't he ask about this?"

Li Leidao suddenly said, "That problem can be discussed in one or two days. You should find a place to sit down and talk while eating."

.....

"Your thoughts."

Because the procuratorate considered the eighty or so people as one case, they had to wait until all the trials were completed before making a verdict together.

Bo Fu said: "After this, has he not heard any news that is not related to the Qingmiao Law?"

Bo Fu said: "But as far as you know, if you borrow money from Qingmiao, you have to pay back the interest. Why did I do that?"

Charlene looked at Luo Hai again.

Lu Gong said, "Hasn't he understood yet? Taxes are a necessary evil, and tax laws are used to limit this evil. What is my intention?"

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Liu Shu, who was listening on the side, asked hurriedly: "Duke Wen, what is it?"

Compared with the subsequent interrogation of Zhao Pin, the dignitaries seemed more curious.

Nowadays, not only is there no reason to reduce taxes, but there are reasons to increase taxes. However, there are times when the country must increase taxes.

Wen Yanbo suddenly said, "Although the people may tend to think that it is an evil that can be avoided, you think that is not conducive to the governance of the court. If everything is defined as 'evil', the people will find it difficult to understand. They may think that paying taxes is not an evil, because a small number of people may understand what 'an evil that can be avoided' is. If it is divided into good and evil, the people will be able to understand it better, and it can also reflect the monarch's benevolent rule."

Li Guozhong thought for a while and nodded, "Worried."

Li Guozhong shook his head and said, "You only know about the Qingmiao Method, but you don't know that the Qingmiao Method will be held on Jingdong East Road."

From the perspective of ordinary people, which one would they prefer?

"Thank you."

Charlene asked, "How long have you known each other?"

Wu Tian nodded and said, "We are acquainted."

.....

"yes."

Bo Fu said: "You have finished asking questions."

Charlene asked again: "And after the tax commissioner left, what happened to Fu Bi?"

Wu Tian said: "Because your family is also engaged in business, and often has no goods to exchange with the locals, and Zhao Pin often robs the merchants, and the government has the power to encircle and suppress us, you can only make friends with him to avoid damage to your own business."

Luo Hai said to Charlene again: "Are you okay for now?"

But the result of restraining Li Lei is most likely to be heavy labor.

"This boy's propaganda method is really rare in the world! In that respect, the difference between you and me is just like the difference between my article and yours!"

That is actually still promoting the "Dharma" and is better than any subsequent promotion.

"Li Guozhong."

Wen Yanbo was more straightforward and said directly: "It's power."

Lu Gong, who was listening in, seemed less embarrassed immediately. He secretly glanced at Wen Yanbo sitting opposite him. Sure enough, Wen Yanbo was mouthing to me, "The people are taxed more but the country is well-off."

Li Lei said without thinking: "Is there any difference between that and the Confucian definition of tax?"

Zhang Fei was stunned at first, then frowned and shook his head, saying, "That's really a bad idea!"

The behaviors of Legalists and the legal system are actually similar, except that they have the same definition of "evil".

Lu Huiqing suddenly realized, "Promote my law of the rule of law."

Zhang Feidao nodded and said, "Your words are not reasonable. The seven may seem similar, but they are actually worlds apart."

Bo Fu then asked Qizhou, "Do you have any other questions for now?"

......

Wen Yanbo also knew how to answer.

After a while, a middle-aged man came to the courtyard.

But as Zhang Fei expected, a few people prefer the less-than-necessary evil. It is not that we have understood the truth, but the current tax system makes a few people feel very satisfied.

Wu Tian wanted to say that he would wait for him, but he thought that he was in danger now, so he held the words back.

But Charlene looked at the issue from the perspective of the people.

Zhang Feidao asked again: "Which one do you think is better, Mr. Fu?"

According to the Legalists, taxes cannot be unlimited in expansion, that would be evil, but if he is paying taxes, that is not evil.

Li Guozhong nodded, "Yes."

Therefore, heavy taxes and levies are evil, while heavy corvee labor service is benevolence.

But that is a concept that has never been seen before, and Zhang Fei also knows that when the people agree with that statement, it will increase or reduce the difficulty of governance.

Luo Hai asked again: "In that situation, does he still think that the government will seriously solve the problem?"

Liang Furen: "Is the result as Wu Tian said?"

Charlene asked again: "Does he know that Zhao Pin is actually a bandit?"

However, we scholars have not been able to come to a conclusion after discussing this issue, which shows that the topic is indeed controversial.

Li Guozhong said: "Your family doesn't have 400 acres of land, so you are considered a first-class family."

Li Guozhong nodded and said, "You went to ask around at the time, but did anyone you knew know about this?"

Bo Fu asked again, "In his opinion, would Wu Tian believe the rumors and think that the tax commissioner is an official who fabricates wrongful convictions and confiscates families and exterminates their property?"

It also does not show that Cha Linlu and Wen Yanbo have the same ideas. Lu Gong is very supportive of the evil that can be lacking.

"How is that possible?" Li Guozhong said, "You did give me a hundred acres of land to pay off your debt, but...but the money I borrowed for the seedlings was much less than what you asked."

"???"

Cha Linlu nodded, "You think it's the government that's causing this. We only care about government performance, but we care about whether there are really not so few people who need to borrow money and force you to share the burden."

Zhang Feidao believes that which is better or worse is a matter of personal opinion.

Wu Tian glanced at the middle-aged man with a hint of confusion in his eyes.

Li Guozhong said: "My information is correct. I have been discussing with you for a long time. The court decided to implement the Qingmiao Law in Jingdong East Road. It was my response strategy that caused you trouble."

Zhang Feidao nodded and said, "Zhang Ba's explanation just now actually hasn't made this clear. It's not an explanation of the tax law. The Legalists did not define tax as evil, but defined tax evasion and tax avoidance as evil. Zhang Ba defined 'tax' as evil, and there is a world of difference between the seven. The Legalists are relative to people, and the legal system is relative to..."

It's really amazing.

Bo Fu asked, "Does he know Wu Tian?"

Liu Shu was startled, but soon realized what was going on.

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Charlene stood up again and asked Li Guozhong, "He just said that it was Wu Tian's mishandling that led to their heavy losses. Does that include Wu Tian himself?"

Zhang Feidao's question of which is better or worse, in fact, is from the perspective of the ruling class, and it cannot be said to be from the perspective of the scholar-official class. For us, they are just two different ways of dealing with things.

Having said this, I suddenly realized something and immediately shut up.

Wu Tian nodded, "I know."

I haven't even said that yet, this really can defend me anymore.

Charlene asked, "Why did I come to him?"

Because in Lu Gong's view, weakening the benevolent government in terms of tax collection is not the behavior of a hypocrite. There is no logic to either tax or tax reduction.

Li Guozhong shook his head.

Luo Hai hurriedly asked if there was any problem.

Many officials were immediately surprised, so he just accepted it?

There is no gravity in officialdom. There is only one force in officialdom, and that is not "power".

The trial continued in the morning just before noon when silence fell.

"He gave it to you...!"

Before the adjournment, there was a small stir in public opinion.

Liu Shu nodded and said, "What Junshi said is not even reasonable, but now that this has not been spread out, how can you avoid it?"

During the whole afternoon, no one paid any attention to the treason case. In the streets and alleys, everyone was talking about how it was an unacceptable evil.

Zhang Fei shook his head and said, "Junshi, this is wrong. This law is not legalism, but legal system. Legalism is the opposite of evil, but legal system is."

"Is it an evil that can be lacking?"

The law of the legal system is the same. Its concept is to defend legitimate rights and interests. In that concept, taxation is not an evil. Taxation absolutely does not infringe on the legitimate rights and interests of individuals, but it is necessary. The law of the legal system needs to distinguish between good and evil, because I myself can restrain evil.

Bo Fu said: "You also did not say that this case has nothing to do with Xu Zhizhong, but the relationship must be made vague for the convenience of the trial later."

Lu Gong was really impressed by this operation. He believed that the idea was deeply rooted in the hearts of the people. Since the people hated "taxes" so much, they would support "laws" so much.

However, Wen Yanbo is more inclined to tradition.

Cha Linlu replied, "Fu Bi was in chaos at the time because of Qingmiao's debt."

After hearing this, Li Guozhong glared at Wu Tian, ​​"You trusted him so much, and he...he actually lied to you."

Li Leidao asked again: "Which of the seven is better or worse?"

Liang Furen: "But he later said that Wu Tian's information must be correct."

But whether Zhao Pin's crime of treason is proven is extremely crucial to the subsequent trial, because these gentry and wealthy people have nothing to do with Charlene, or they support Charlene in dealing with the Commissioner of Taxation. We ourselves have not committed any acts of rebellion. If Charlene is definitely charged with treason, it is very unlikely that we are assisting in treason. For a charge like treason, even assisting in treason is equivalent to treason!

Bo Fu said: "At the end of the year after Xiao Hou, Wu Tian came to see him, right?"

Charlinlu's silence is the key to success.

Lu Gong laughed.

Bo Fu asked, "What does he do?"

The idea is to tend to define it as "evil".

I still think that this has a lot to do with the concept of the Seven. In the Confucian system, the monarch is the core, so the main focus is on advising the monarch. If we distinguish between good and evil, how can we advise the monarch? We can always persuade the monarch to commit major evils and not to commit minor evils.

Sima Guang said: "It is almost impossible for these people to be released if they are guilty. You can only fight them for treason, but there is still no hope."

Many officials breathed a sigh of relief, it turned out that I was not prepared.

Wu Tian thought for a moment and said, "It's probably not even 1987."

"Obviously I wasn't telling him the truth."

Li Guozhong nodded and said, "I know you two. You are from the same hometown."

Bo Fu smiled and said, "I only lent the money I borrowed to the local people in the first phase. In the previous phases, I did not lend money to the people, but lent it to the first-class households like them who were short of money but had very little land. Therefore, I did not lose a penny, but made a lot of money."

Li Guozhong said: "Because my family knows many people in the court, I know most of the court's policies in advance and have never missed them."

Charlene asked, "If that's the case, why would he doubt Wu Tian's words?"

But Zhang Fei thought so, saying: "Those who are righteous have few supporters, while those who are unrighteous have few supporters. This can distinguish the good from the bad."

Wen Yanbo stroked his beard and said, "In fact, it's not about who is more unreasonable, but about the similarity of the Confucian and Legalist concepts. The opposite of Legalism is not evil, but the opposite of Confucianism is good and evil."

Since there is no difference among the seven, we must divide them into lower and higher ones!

Lu Huiqing understood the reason and asked, "Why did you say that, Master?"

Bo Fu continued to ask: "What is your relationship with Zhao Pin?"

Zhang Feidao, Zhang Fei, we looked at each other tacitly, and both stroked our beards and talked.

"Did I tell him?"

I dare not make any comments on which one is better or worse.

"Yes." Cha Linlu nodded.

Some of the dumbest people of our time looked at each other in bewilderment.

Li Guozhong shook his head and said, "You are suspicious, because with my connections and contacts, I must know everything about the Tax Commissioner."

Charlene produced a piece of evidence, "Because according to the account book that the tax commissioner obtained from the Liang family, during the entire period of the implementation of the Green Seedling Law, I made a total profit of more than 800 strings of cash and 800 acres of land. And not a hundred acres of land was not compensated to me by him."

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But it was not that Wu Tian let the cat out of the bag, but he knew very well in his heart that he could not escape the charge of treason, so he might as well be arrogant and vent his resentment.

Zhang Feidao stroked his beard and said, "In fact, the result that the seven of them are pursuing may all be to severely punish Li Lei, but the means they adopt are the same."

Charlene then asked, "Is he the only one he knows who is worried?"

Wu Tian nodded, "Yes."

Wu Tian said: "He took the initiative to borrow from you, why does he blame you?"

Lu Gong cursed and looked away.

Luo Hai continued to ask: "Who does he think caused the chaos?"

Instead, it was the Tax Commissioner who gave us a glimmer of hope.

But in the law of the legal system, taxation itself is not evil and must be restrained. It can be expanded within limits and must be treated with great caution.

Qizhou nodded, and then glanced at the sky. Seeing that noon was approaching, he said, "The court will be adjourned for now and the trial will continue in the morning."

Cha Linlu, who is familiar with history books, said: "In fact, Confucianism does not define this, but from the history books, Confucianism divides taxes into two categories, considering heavy taxes and miscellaneous taxes as evil, and heavy corvee and Li Lei as benevolence. On the other hand, light taxes and miscellaneous taxes are defined as evil, and there is debate as to whether it is heavy taxes and miscellaneous taxes or heavy corvee and Li Lei."

"Old thief!"

Bo Fu said: "With his family background, why would he want to make friends with a bandit?"

Bo Fu said, "But according to the evidence you have collected, in July last year, he suddenly sent someone to support Charlene with 1,000 strings of cash. Is this true?"

Charlene asked, "But I am sure I know the court's policies very well. Would I still make such a mistake?"

Of course, I was so depressed because I strongly supported Bo Fu’s point of view.

Wu Tian immediately shook his head and said, "You don't know."

Bo Fu first presented relevant evidence to Qizhou, and then said: "The facts prove that with Wu Tian's family background and my relationship in the court, I may have believed these rumors. I should be very vague. The tax commissioner is just here to collect taxes, and the way of collecting taxes is more violent than later. The difference is that the tax collectors in the future dare to collect taxes from my house, and the tax commissioner will definitely come to my house to collect taxes. Therefore, I support Zhao Pin to deal with the tax commissioner."

Li Guozhong nodded.

Wu Tianzhi nodded, "Yes."

Cha Linlu was furious and said, "It was bad at first, but as the government released less and less money, you borrowed less and less. At the same time, the people had no way to pay back the money in time, so you had to use your own money to pay back the government. Now your family can no longer afford it, so you can only default on your debts like the people."

Charlene thought for a while before saying, "I think it will be effective."

This question is not from the perspective of governance.

Luo Hai stood up and said, "Cha Linlu, he just said that Wu Tian asked him to go and borrow money from the seedlings, and then use the money to lend to the people and make a profit from it?"

Looking back now, the only thing that is constrained is power.

In the final analysis, the minority involved in the treason case will just watch in silence and it has nothing to do with us, but taxation has nothing to do with everyone.

Cha Linlu: "At that time, if you remember correctly, the court asked the public security, procuratorate, courts and taxation department to solve Fu Bi's debt and taxation problems. Was he worried that the taxation department would make things worse for him?"

Wu Tian said: "Because Charlene threatened to take action against the tax commissioner, and you believed these rumors, thinking that the tax commissioner was specifically convicting people of wrongful convictions, confiscating homes and exterminating families, and plundering the wealth of you landlords, so you impulsively supported Charlene with that sum of money."

If the "law" can limit this "evil", will the people support the "law"?

Charlene asked, "Why did he support Zhao Pin with that sum of money?"

Lu Gong glanced at Cha Lin with satisfaction, thinking, is he taking personal revenge?

Charlene immediately said, "You agree very much with Prosecutor Zhang's first statement, whether Charlene believed the rumors or not, but I just wanted to pay taxes, not treason."

......

Cha Linlu hesitated for a moment and said, "Maybe I also understand it very vaguely."

Luo Hai stood up and said, "This case is related to Mr. Xu."

Charlene Lu sighed: "That's a bad thing for you!"

We also saw that we knew Wu Tian, ​​but we were vague. Wu Tian was representing our entire class being tried there.

"Thank you."