Chapter 515 The Long Summer: Uninvited Guests, Are They Here to Steal Our Talents?

The summer of 1999 was truly unbearable.

The merger of UMC into five companies has triggered a major earthquake in Taiwan's semiconductor industry. As the general manager of World Semiconductor Manufacturing Corporation (WSMC), Taiwan's third-largest foundry chip manufacturer, Dr. Chang Ru-ching certainly needs to return to Taiwan to assess the situation.

Dr. Lin Benjian has once again disappeared without a trace.

Mr. Wang was left as anxious as an ant on a hot pan, running around in circles.

Lyuba got dizzy from being spun around, so she dragged him to watch a TV series with her. It was a martial arts series, with people flying around and fighting, which was really interesting.

Wang Xiao instantly found it interesting, because it was "The Smiling, Proud Wanderer," the version starring Louis Koo. In her mind, Linghu Chong was someone who had stepped right out of the book, and she wouldn't accept any arguments against it.

She had just finished watching half an episode of handsome men with great interest when suddenly the TV screen changed to a serious-looking news anchor rebuking Falun Gong in a stern tone.

Yes, just like that, overnight, the crowd that had been practicing martial arts in the square suddenly disappeared.

Wang Xiao initially thought it was just because of the hot weather that people were too lazy to go out. Turns out, it's actually been banned now.

This matter caused a minor disturbance.

Several engineers at the lithography machine factory are practicing Falun Dafa because it's so popular; everyone thinks it's the most fashionable and powerful qigong in China.

Upon hearing this, Wang Xiao was so frightened that he quickly arranged for a coach to teach them the Five Animal Frolics.

Otherwise, if these guys go mad and commit suicide by self-immolation, wouldn't that be the end of us?

Linghu Chong couldn't watch anymore; the TV stations were broadcasting a massive critique of Falun Gong.

Mr. Wang had no choice but to go eat hot pot instead; after all, the hottest days of summer are the perfect time to enjoy hot pot to his heart's content.

As a result, she suffered a terrible setback; she developed huge blisters. To cool down, she quickly suppressed the blisters and drank bitter tea. Then, another tragedy struck: she got diarrhea.

She had such severe diarrhea that she lost 7 pounds, and she was afraid to go back to Jinning, fearing that Ms. Chen Yanqiu would catch her and scold her to death.

At this age, you can't even take care of your own health.

She stayed in Shanghai, whining and grumbling, like a sickly chicken, listlessly eating only simple porridge with some side dishes. The body really doesn't lie; getting old really does take its toll.

Xiao Gao, Xiao Zhao, and the others were secretly amazed. They had no idea Dr. Lin was such a remarkable person! The boss had lost his composure twice because of him.

Apart from him, they had never seen the boss hire anyone else who was so indispensable.

Wang Xiao admitted that she was extremely nervous, more nervous than she had ever been before.

Even when she shorted US stocks and screwed over the US president and his wife, she was excited and thrilled, but she wasn't really that nervous. Instead, she had a strange feeling of playing a video game.

This time it's truly different; they're determined to win.

She even considered that if the US government really detained Lin Benjian and prevented him from leaving the US, she would file an international lawsuit or simply steal him out.

In any case, no one can stop her.

She had already envisioned her ideal nation in her heart; anyone who dared to stop her would be her mortal enemy.

Boss Wang can be listless one moment and menacing the next.

Xiao Gao and Xiao Zhao felt that their boss was going to have a mental breakdown and they had to distract her.

So Xiang Dong took the initiative to visit the boss again, and dragged him to see a concert, which was a variety show featuring singers from their own company.

Wang Xiao thought the singers sang quite well and had good stage presence. She waved her glow stick and had a great time from beginning to end, which was really fun.

However, Mr. Xiang was a little worried, frowning at his boss: "The company has been training them for several years, but their brand awareness just won't go up, and they can't open up the market."

From the moment he took over organizing Michael Jackson's concerts, he suddenly realized that the music industry was a huge market, and fans were willing to spend money.

Then, with the mindset that "it's a fool not to make money when you can," he began to seriously expand his music business.

Thanks to his extensive connections in the entertainment industry, the singers under his wing certainly don't starve, but they've never really achieved great success. To this day, their most notable achievements remain Russian boy and girl groups.

However, their efforts are far less impressive than those of the Backstreet Boys and Spice Girls. Even in the mainland Chinese market, they are not as popular as the rising South Korean boy bands.

Xiang Dong felt like he had gotten up very early but arrived late, and couldn't help but sigh: "The influence of Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan and South Korea culture is just too great. We are like a mantis trying to stop a chariot."

Wang Xiao thought to himself, "This is nothing. What follows is a complete crushing defeat, where I'll be beaten to a pulp."

The so-called era of epic battles will likely begin in the next five years.

However, things always turn around when they reach their extreme. After a few years of enjoying the novelty of the Hong Kong and Taiwan style, Phoenix Legend also rose to prominence, didn't they? The market always has its own preferences.

She stroked her chin and began to offer bad advice: "How about this, you start with the internet and treat online business as a serious business?"

Xiang Dong paused for a moment, then asked, "What's the plan?"

Wang Xiao said seriously, "It means letting them manage their own personal accounts, post beautiful pictures on their blogs, keep posting, and attract die-hard fans. By taking the mass-market approach, it's really hard for mainland singers to compete with Hong Kong and Taiwan singers, and Russian singers can't compete with those from Europe and America."

The influence of popular culture is undeniable, and it's difficult for an individual to reverse it.

but--

"Most listeners are casual listeners, and they are very unwilling to spend money on singers. Especially in our market, there is just too much piracy, and it's impossible to stop it."

Mr. Wang offered unsolicited advice, saying, "But if a singer cultivates a die-hard fanbase, their spending power can easily surpass that of ten people. Moreover, the more die-hard fans there are, the greater their influence becomes, and it might even create the illusion in society that the singers they support are the most popular."

Xiang Dong blinked. He understood why the models kept posting pictures on their blogs; the company had always made them do it. Although the influence of the internet was limited, it was better to take a chance. After all, aside from runway shows, models mostly sold their work through their photos.

But if singers do the same thing, it just feels a bit strange.

Wang Xiao stared wide-eyed and looked him up and down: "You're the one who's strange! Look at the poster vendors and postcard vendors, there are tons of singers there, they're just selling pictures."

Xiang Dong wasn't very familiar with the internet, so he asked the boss, "Where should we start the blog? Or should we buy it online?"

Wang Xiao subconsciously shook his head: "Sina, Sina Blog has a bigger influence."

In order to increase the size of the website and attract more users in a short period of time, Wobuy.com is now a hodgepodge, with all kinds of functions and sections.

This can't go on in the long run.

Ms. Wang had long planned to wait until the internet economy bubble burst before launching a major reform, splitting the various sections into new websites to attract their respective target user groups.

Xiang Dong was completely bewildered: "What Sina Blog? Sina doesn't have blogs."

Wang Xiao was even more confused than him: "No?"

"Really not." Xiang Dong was very certain. "Domestic websites don't have blogs. We all take the international route through the websites I buy."

Wang Xiao scratched her head. She really hadn't expected that there were no blogs in China back in 1999!

“Well then, if we don’t have one, we’ll make one ourselves.” She thought for a while and had an idea. “It doesn’t have to be in the form of a blog, but we need to have our own personal account.”

Xiang Dong became interested: "How do we do it?"

Given that one has no right to speak without investigation, Mr. Wang decided to first understand the composition of internet users in China, otherwise he would be unable to address the problem effectively.

She called her own computer company and was quite surprised by the data she received.

Back in 1999, males accounted for 85%-86% of internet users in China, making them the absolute majority.

No wonder before she transmigrated, men online often complained that the online environment wasn't as good as it used to be. Isn't that obvious? When women can't speak out, the silent victims naturally create the illusion of a harmonious society.

Moreover, 67% of these netizens are young people, 63% are unmarried, and 75% have a bachelor's or associate's degree, making them a typical highly educated group.

Xiang Dong, who was looking at the faxed document beside him, clicked his tongue in admiration: "Kids these days are really rich, so many of them are online."

Wang Xiao was quite surprised, mainly because internet access is expensive these days. She hadn't expected that even under these circumstances, students would still be the main force of internet users, accounting for as much as 19.3%, making them the undisputed leader.

Even computer professionals only account for 14.9%.

It is clear that starting with the students is the fastest approach.

Wang Xiao made the decision: "You guys set up a website, and the main site will use our existing password website, with personal accounts."

The head of the internet company didn't understand what his boss meant: what is a personal account?

Wang Xiao tried hard to recall, but after talking for a long time, he didn't seem to have gotten to the point. He could only settle for second best: "Wait here, I'll send you the framework diagram later."

So how do he create this framework diagram? Sigh! Just borrow it.

The blueprints she used were Facebook and Renren.

Why not just copy one company directly, but instead merge two? Is it because she feels embarrassed to focus on copying only one company?

Are you kidding me? Tencent has the nerve to do this, so why shouldn't she? Just because she's a woman, does that mean she has such high moral standards?

That's absolutely impossible.

She chose to copy two websites because she wasn't particularly familiar with either of them—after all, when Renren (a Chinese social networking site) was popular, she was still a preschooler and had no access to the internet. As for Facebook, which originated from Harvard's Renren platform, she needed to use a VPN to access it in China.

As a law-abiding citizen, why would she go through all this trouble?

Besides, by the time she actually started making money online, Facebook had already begun its decline, so she had no reason to spend more time on it.

Given this reality, she had no choice but to piece together whatever she could vaguely recall while simultaneously fabricating a story. Like a tailor and a weaver, she managed to cobble together the framework.

Xiang Dong blinked and watched for a long time, then couldn't help but wonder, "Can this really get us some die-hard fans?"

Oh, Wang Xiao only just remembered what her original purpose was in doing this job.

So, after straying way off-topic, Boss Wang had to scratch his head and come up with another bad idea: "Forget it, the main thing is that you need to change your thinking, you can't keep going down the old path. In the 80s and early 90s, imitating Hong Kong and Taiwan singers was a viable option because of the information gap. Didn't you see that Guangzhou singers were the most popular back then?"

It's because being near the water tower gives you an advantage.

Now that the information gap is getting smaller and smaller, you won't be able to reap the benefits.

What should we do?

"You need to differentiate yourself from others by adopting a style that they don't have or that isn't their mainstream style. That way, you're not competing on the same track, and you'll naturally have an advantage."

Mr. Wang earnestly advised, "Look, in the 1980s, when Teresa Teng was popular, wasn't the Northwest Wind and Loess Plateau style also very popular? That was a style that Hong Kong and Taiwan couldn't create. In the 1990s, didn't revolutionary songs also become very popular for a period of time? Similarly, that was music that the music scenes in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, and even Europe and America couldn't provide."

Xiang Dong listened and nodded: "Yes, that seems to be true."

Wang Xiao said decisively, "That's exactly how it is. By the way, when you finish writing your new song, remember to release a preview online to attract more people. Okay, okay, figure it out yourself, I can't write songs anyway."

What will she do? She's already thinking about building a social media platform as soon as possible.

She no longer has time to deal with Xiang Dong.

Seeing that their boss was once again full of fighting spirit, the assistants and bodyguards secretly breathed a sigh of relief.

Thank goodness, the boss isn't suited to being idle. Rather than letting him idly think about this and that, it's better to let Kuku do the work.

Although everyone worked very hard while she was working, at least they could earn more money.

Now everyone's only hope is that Dr. Lin can hurry up and fly over from the United States before the boss finishes building her social media network.

Dr. Lin, who was far away on the other side of the ocean, did not waste any time.

After getting off the plane, he went home to drop off his luggage and then returned to the company to finish up his work.

As soon as his secretary saw the boss return, her eyes lit up and she couldn't wait to come over and report on her work.

Nothing particularly noteworthy happened during the month.

Everyone followed the instructions given by the boss before he left and continued their work in an orderly manner.

However, within that month, the two potential clients they had initially connected with suddenly switched sides, one going to KLA and the other to Synopsys.

Both of these are large companies that have been deeply involved in the lithography simulation industry.

Lin Benjian sighed upon hearing his secretary's report.

Thanks to the booming internet economy, the semiconductor industry has indeed begun to recover this year, but competition is also becoming increasingly fierce.

Startups like Linnovation face immense challenges when squeezed by large corporations.

Upon returning from a long business trip, he was met with this unfortunate news as soon as he got back to the company, which was undoubtedly a huge blow to him.

At the same time, he also had a strange sense of ease, as if God was making the decision for him.

God will arrange everything for the world.

The secretary became extremely anxious when she saw that her boss remained silent.

The boss needs to find ways to get orders, otherwise, if orders keep decreasing, morale in the company will drop, and the engineers are secretly looking for new jobs.

Anyway, the market is doing well right now, and many industry giants have started hiring again.

Lin Benjian took a deep breath, nodded and said, "People strive for higher positions, and water flows downhill. Since everyone wants to leave, I won't force you and won't hinder your bright future."

The secretary was taken aback and looked at her boss in disbelief: "You mean...?"

“If the company can’t continue, then there’s no need to force it.” He smiled slightly. “In the past few years, when the market was bad, I didn’t dare to close the company easily. Now that the market is good and everyone has a job, then let’s close it.”

Fearing that her usually good-tempered boss had been provoked, the secretary instinctively defended the colleague who wanted to resign: "Actually, they're just anxious."

Lin Benjian nodded, his smile still gentle: "So let's all part ways amicably. The finance department will have to work hard these next few days to get the company's accounts sorted out. I'll share whatever I can with everyone."

The secretary was truly terrified, stammering, "Th-th-boss, you-you-you..."

The company is closing down, and everyone has to go out and find new jobs. What are you going to do, boss?

You're already 57 years old. Are you going to go back to working for a company?

However, the boss is a well-known lithography expert with a good reputation in the industry, so he shouldn't have to worry about finding a job.

Lin Benjian shook his head, his face showing the weariness of a long journey: "I'm going back to my hometown, to return to my roots."

The secretary wanted to say something, but the boss had already picked up the phone and said gently to the finance department, "Could you please come over here? We need to review the company's accounts."

That's it. It's better to end it sooner so I can start a new life sooner.

In the seven years since he started the company, he has worked incredibly hard, having to spend a lot of time and energy on administration and sales.

Even so, the results were still minimal.

Because the company's core business revolves around lithography simulation software, and manufacturers such as KLA and Synopsys have long held a dominant position in the mainstream market in this field.

Linnovation is just a startup with limited market share and competitiveness, and has never become a true dark horse.

Although the company has its own patents, patent maintenance costs are high in the United States. After authorization, high stage maintenance fees must be paid, and related costs such as examination and renewal are constantly increasing.

Large companies have deep pockets and don't care about these kinds of expenses.

Small companies really can't afford it, especially since Linnovation has always focused on technology research and development, often requiring multiple claims to cover expenses, which can easily trigger over-fees.

Over the years, these expenses become a major headache.

With a small office space and few employees, messages can be transmitted much faster.

How long did it take? The finance department had just started doing the accounting when everyone got the news and rushed over to ask the boss about the situation.

Some people aspire to great things and seek better career prospects at industry giants.

Of course, there are also people who are content with their lot and have no intention of changing their allegiance to other people's big companies.

The owner's decision to close down is a very serious matter.

Lin Benjian remained good-natured, patiently explaining to each of them: "I wrote you recommendation letters to express my sincere gratitude for your hard work for the company over the years. You have all done a great job."

Seeing that some people were still uneasy, he reassured them, "I have an old friend who runs a similar company in Hong Kong. The Hong Kong government is developing Cyberport, and if you are interested, you can also work in Hong Kong. Accommodation is provided there, and you can bring your family and children with you."

However, only a minority are willing to leave the United States for Hong Kong.

Most engineers would appreciate a recommendation from their boss so they can find another job.

Although Mr. Lin is not a particularly successful businessman, he is indeed a recognized expert in the industry. His letter of recommendation carries significant weight in the semiconductor field and can greatly enhance their job prospects.

Lin Benjian took a deep breath, checked the time, and then got up to go home from get off work.

On his way home, he gazed greedily at the scenery along the roadside. He had never before found these landscapes particularly captivating, but as he prepared to leave, a sense of reluctance and longing filled his heart.

This is the path he has walked step by step; it is the imprint of his life and the testament to his existence.

After we part, I don't know if I'll ever come back.

Once inside the house, his wife looked at him with a worried expression: "Are you really going to the mainland?"

Lin Benjian nodded: "I've spoken to the people at the company. Since orders are constantly being snatched away, there's no need for us to keep suffering like this. We might as well close down."

He was quite optimistic, saying, "Fortunately, the company still has some money in its accounts, enough to help everyone find their next job."

His wife did not expect her husband to become a boss and make a lot of money, and their two children were already grown up and quite accomplished in music, and could support themselves completely.

But she was worried about their life after they went to the mainland.

It doesn't matter if the company closes down; at worst, her husband can retire early. It's not like she can't work.

So she repeated her doubts again: "Do we really have to go to the mainland? We've been in the US for so long, it would be good to go home. The semiconductor industry is doing very well back home now."

She was referring to Taiwan as her home, and like her husband, she came from Taiwan to study in the United States. She still has family members in Taiwan.

Lin Benjian shook his head: "The mainland is already making progress in developing immersion lithography machines, and the boss is very confident, and the market is huge. If we go back to Taiwan, we'll have to start from scratch. Besides, doing so would be letting down the factories on the mainland. They've put in a lot of effort and invested a lot of capital to achieve this result."

Linnovation's experience of being squeezed out by large companies made him deeply aware of the difficulties faced by newcomers in the industry. In the United States, it is common for large companies to infringe on the patents of small companies. And small companies often cannot afford the high costs of protecting their rights.

He cannot help established large companies bully newcomers in the industry.

Lin Benjian felt a little guilty and held his wife's hand, saying, "I'm sorry for making you run around with me again."

Actually, when they were studying in Taiwan, his wife's grades were better than his, and the same was true when they went to the United States. It's just that after they got married and had children, his wife devoted most of her energy to her family and didn't even have time to develop her own career.

Now that their lives are gradually entering their twilight years, he wants his wife to give up her familiar life in the United States, to leave their family and relatives in Taiwan, and to go to the unfamiliar mainland.

His wife shook her head: "I'm fine. I'm just worried that you won't be able to adapt after you go to the mainland."

Lin Benjian's thoughts had gradually drifted away. He patted his wife's hand, as if talking to himself, "It's alright, you'll adapt slowly. Shanghai is very tolerant."

Or to be more specific, they simply don't care about other people's business.

That's fine too, it's comfortable.

In such a relaxed environment, immersion lithography machines should be able to achieve a breakthrough soon.

In fact, although he publicly presented a paper on immersion lithography at a conference in 1987, he did not focus his main efforts on this matter afterward.

During his final days at IBM, he was mainly busy arguing with his boss about X-ray and ultraviolet light sources.

After leaving IBM, he became obsessed with developing lithography software and busy finding orders for the company.

It can be said that when he received Wang Xiao's email in 1994, in which the other party took the initiative to consult him about immersion lithography machines, it was a pastime for him after a busy day of work, similar to an interest group for students outside of class.

Now that his hobby is becoming his main job, he really can't control his impulse and excitement.

Seeing that she couldn't persuade her husband, and knowing his ambition and persistence in technology, the wife had no choice but to nod and say, "Okay, then let's go to Shanghai."

Lin Benjian felt he should try to make his wife happier, so he quickly led her to the computer and pointed to the pictures of villas on the screen: "Boss Wang prepared these and asked what style you like. Pick one that you like."

The wife was quite surprised: "She provided all these villas?"

No matter where such a villa is located, the construction costs alone would be substantial. Moreover, the interior decorations and appliances provided are all from world-renowned brands.

Lin Benjian nodded: "They did a great job in terms of logistical support. The engineers are well paid, so everyone can work with peace of mind."

To put it bluntly, engineers in the semiconductor industry generally don't have very good life skills, so companies need to spend a lot of effort in this area to ensure that they can focus their energy on their work to the maximum extent.

The wife was a little uneasy because her husband's new job offered very good benefits.

Annual salary of US$1 million, with additional bonuses for breakthroughs in projects.

It's worth noting that most senior engineers in the US semiconductor industry earn only a few hundred thousand US dollars.

Lin Benjian laughed and said, "That's the characteristic of new bosses these days; they're all willing to invest more money."

When South Korea was developing its semiconductor industry, it also poached talent from Japan with high salaries. Only by using this method can it attract as many people as possible to leave their hometowns.

In the following days, the couple busied themselves with finishing up their work and life in the United States while going to the relevant departments to complete the formalities in order to obtain permission to leave the country as soon as possible.

The final work went smoothly, but when it came to completing the formalities, things got stuck.

When the lady in charge of stamping heard that the couple was going back to their hometown, she took out her stamp to express her blessings to them. Just as she was about to stamp it, a man in a suit and tie suddenly appeared behind her, staring sharply at Lin Benjian.

"Sir, since your company was doing well and had no debts, why did you suddenly close it down?"

Lin Benjian had a bad feeling, but he remained calm: "Because our orders are getting fewer and fewer, I'm afraid that if this continues, the company will be in debt. Besides, our senior engineers have better options, and I can't stand in the way of their future."

The man sized Lin Benjian up and down, his expression full of suspicion: "Really? Sir, the semiconductor industry is doing very well right now. Wouldn't you be making a huge loss by closing your company now?"

Lin Benjian explained patiently, "In this industry, the big get bigger and the small get smaller. The competition for startups like ours is too intense; we simply can't compete with the giants. Rather than struggling with debt, it's better to end it sooner so everyone can find better opportunities in big companies."

But no matter how he explained, the seal that should have been affixed was never placed on the document.

After the man in the suit left, he pressed the woman who had been so friendly to them earlier for answers. She changed her attitude and became evasive no matter how the couple questioned her.

What should they do next? One word: wait.

The couple became increasingly anxious. They were perfectly fine; they weren't prisoners, so why were their freedoms being restricted?

When Lin Benjian got home, he received a call from Zhang Rujing and finally couldn't help but complain: "They are really seeing ghosts everywhere and paranoid about everything! I've been away from IBM for seven years, what core IBM technology could I possibly still possess? If Innovation is so important, why isn't any major company willing to buy it?"

Zhang Rujing was taken aback.

Fearing his phone calls might be tapped, he said, "This can't be so unreasonable. People always want to return to their roots. It's too much to not even let people go back to their hometowns."

But what's the point of saying all this? They're completely unmoved; they see you as a spy and will treat you like one.

Zhang Rujing sighed, looking worried: "What about your mother? Didn't you already tell her that you would go back to your hometown to retire together?"

Lin Benjian was stunned for a moment, then suddenly realized that Dr. Zhang was reminding him that he could take a roundabout approach.

His father passed away 13 years ago, but his mother still lives in Taiwan.

There have long been convenient channels for people to travel between the United States and Taiwan, so he will not face many travel restrictions when traveling from the United States to Taiwan.

Lin Benjian immediately perked up: "No, I have to argue with them! No country or government has any reason to prevent people from fulfilling their filial duties."

This time, he, who is usually good-tempered, got into a fight with someone and even slammed his fist on the counter, emphasizing: "The tree may wish to be still, but the wind will not cease; the child may wish to care for his parents, but they will no longer be there. My father has been gone for many years, and my mother has been all alone for so long. Am I not allowed to go back to Taiwan to take care of my mother?"

Perhaps it's because the relationship between Taiwan and the United States has always been ambiguous, or perhaps it's because his attitude was too tough and he threatened to sue the other party, to let the whole world see whether the United States wants to treat all its citizens as prisoners.

In conclusion, this time, Dr. Lin finally got the stamp, and he and his wife successfully boarded the plane back to Taiwan.

Zhang Rujing then secretly breathed a sigh of relief.

Okay, okay, things will be easier once we get to Taiwan.

The Taiwanese authorities dare not detain people because a large number of Taiwanese businesses are investing in mainland China. If the authorities show any signs of stopping people, it will inevitably cause panic among the Taiwanese business community.

After he breathed a sigh of relief, he waited for the plane to arrive in Taiwan so he could pick up the people as soon as possible and then transfer them to their new location.

As it turns out, things didn't go as planned. Dr. Zhang was indeed quick, and the plane wasn't delayed, but he wasn't the only one in the team picking people up.

The other people Dr. Zhang mentioned were certainly not Dr. Lin and his wife's relatives in Taiwan; it's perfectly normal for them to come and settle their accounts.

What's unusual is the unexpected guest – Chiang Shang-yi, the TSMC R&D Vice President, who appeared out of nowhere.

What's he doing here? Is he trying to poach our employees?

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I couldn't find the exact salary TSMC offered Dr. Lin when they recruited him, but when he later won an international award with a prize of US$1 million, his reaction was that the prize money was really high. Therefore, I deduce that his annual salary at the time probably didn't exceed US$1 million. [Winking emoji] If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. [Smiling emoji]