Zhu Yunying didn't mind and said, "In the end, I am your grandson, so it is only right that I can amuse my grandfather. It is true that I am the emperor of the Ming Dynasty, but I am also Zhu Xiong Ying, the grandson of my grandfather and grandmother, and the son of my parents. Besides, others may not know my personality, but surely my grandfather knows?"

Old Zhu thought about it carefully, and then said, "Do you know why we dote on Yin'er the most?"

“More shameless than my grandson? What could he be?” Zhu Yunying said speechlessly. “Although my grandson was shameless when he was young, he still knew his limits. Grandmother often said that I was too calculating, but Yin’er is different. He’s just a child at heart. There’s a reason why my grandson is shameless; he is truly shameless.”

Old Zhu laughed heartily, in a good mood. "It's good that you have self-awareness. You're just too calculating! Our Yin'er isn't like that. He genuinely likes to make us happy and is close to us! You're different. You're just coaxing us and indulging us. You've got your eye on our throne!"

Zhu Yunying smiled and then said, "Let's not talk about those things anymore. Let's talk about some things related to the reform. I think things have indeed become a little more relaxed. The Ming Dynasty's finances are still acceptable. It's not good to keep using harsh laws and punishments all the time."

"Yes, it's time to make some changes," Old Zhu said. "We thought that if you were conquering the world, we would continue to be strict. But if you want to govern the world well, we should relax a bit."

That's fine. There are still many conflicts in the country right now, and Zhu Yunying can't keep up the high pressure all the time.

Zhu Yunying also said, "Grandfather, I am a sage within and a king without. Even if I intend to be more lenient, there are still some things that should be done. If I can stay in this position for a few more years, when I am of your age, I should still expand the territory."

Old Zhu laughed heartily and said, "Our grandson will definitely live to be a hundred years old. Our grandson has that ability!"