So Expert Shen didn't get angry directly, but just raised his voice a little and said: "Look, these are all professional things. You don't understand. We are not medicine in the strict sense, but we have the effect of medicine, do you know?"
"But you just said it was medicine, everyone heard it!"
Mr. Fang said this in a loud voice. Many old people noticed it and nodded when they heard it.
One of the elderly people spoke up, "Yes, expert, I also heard you say this is medicine, so do I need surgery after taking this?"
"Even if I tell you, you won't understand..."
But before the expert could finish his words, Fang Dazhuang interrupted him again: "Then you can speak first. It's definitely unreasonable to say we don't understand without even saying anything."
The quarrel broke out here. Other experts nearby and Mr. Zhao from the company noticed it and hurried over.
"Wang Rui, is this the customer you brought here? What's going on?" Mr. Zhao asked in a low voice.
In the front, Expert Shen was obviously angry.
"Are you the doctor or am I the doctor? I'm here for a free consultation. If you keep asking, I won't see you anymore!"
After a pause, he turned to the other elderly people and said, "My kindness is being taken for granted. I'm here to treat you, so why are you supporting these people? Are you still asking me that? I've already said that I'll only be here for a few hours and then I'll go back to the Magic City. If you don't have anyone to treat you, don't come to me again!"
After saying this, the other elderly people immediately became anxious. One of them even shouted, "What are you young people doing? If you don't want to see a doctor, get out of the way. We need to see a doctor. You've pissed off the expert and you're not going to see him?"
"That's right, get out of the way!"
Wang Rui also stepped forward and hurriedly said, "Teacher Shen, please don't be angry first."
After that, he turned to Zhou Yi and said, "Mr. Zhou, and Mr. Fang, what are you doing? The experts are providing free medical treatment. They are senior experts at UBS Hospital..."
Wang Rui was interrupted by Fang Dazhuang before he could finish his words. He ignored the old people and just said, "So they are experts from Ruixi Hospital. That's the top hospital in our country!"
Expert Shen said sarcastically, "You still know."
Mr. Zhao, who was standing nearby, also came up and said, "What are you doing? The experts are well-intentioned, but you're still asking questions here and there, wasting everyone's time. If you keep doing this, we'll call the police!"
Fang Dazhuang smiled and quickly said, "Sorry, sorry, I'm really sorry. It's an occupational disease. We'll get out of the way right away."
His attitude was so sincere that Zhou Yi and Grandma Liu were stunned.
Fortunately, with this obstruction, Grandma Liu finally did not buy the so-called "medicine".
As soon as they made way, the people behind them couldn't wait to come forward and start seeing the doctor.
"Mr. Fang, what should we do now?"
"I'm still collecting evidence. I originally thought they were just committing civil fraud, but after this interaction, I think the situation is a bit serious!"
"You mean... they might be involved in fraud?"
Attorney Fang didn't answer directly. He simply turned his head and looked around, then said in an inexplicable tone, "When I was in Shanghai, I did a similar criminal defense for a health product company. At that time... at that time, I helped them defend their innocence, and in the end, they were indeed acquitted."
"During that time, I was a bit like that pure legal creature we talked about in our conversation. I pored over every legal provision, every word, looking for arguments from many angles, and firmly believed that everything I did was right!"
"Law, yes. At that time, I thought that if you didn't break the law, you were a good person. For example, in the case of health supplement fraud, I didn't consider anything else. I just thought that such a defense was a good opportunity to show off what I had learned!"
"Every time we get a not guilty verdict, I'm happy for a long time."
As Mr. Fang continued to talk, Zhou Yi finally understood why Mr. Fang would do this for free.
Is Fang Dazhang a good man? Not necessarily. When he was young, he was able to make such a big name in Shanghai, especially for his criminal defense. I don't think Fang Dazhang himself would believe that he is a good man.
Mr. Fang has said before that it is absolutely correct to call him a "litigator". He is the purest legal creature who measures everything by the law.
Until now, Mr. Fang is not a normal person. He is still so paranoid, but he uses this energy in another way.
"The law, especially criminal law, protects the majority by punishing a group of people. Unfortunately... never mind, I won't talk about this anymore. I'll tell you how to secure evidence now!"
"In the past, I spent a lot of time researching how the investigating authorities defined civil and criminal fraud involving health supplements, and their conviction strategies. I did a lot of research..."
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"So now, all I have to do is reverse that process and consolidate all the arguments I came up with. I can even convict them without even needing their confessions!"
For Attorney Fang, the evidence was actually sufficient to determine civil fraud.
But it is still not enough to be considered criminal fraud.
In his words, civil fraud and criminal fraud involving health products have many similarities.
For example, both parties committed deceptive acts, causing misunderstandings and wrong perceptions to the other party, and then caused economic losses to the other party.
These can actually be called "transactional fraud"!
How to distinguish them depends on the purpose. The purpose of civil fraud is to "make money", while the purpose of criminal fraud is to "cheat money"!
"So, we need to find evidence that the other party hired fake doctors, made false diagnoses, exaggerated the condition, and sold health supplements at high prices. The law will not wrongly accuse a good person, but it will not let a bad person go!"
"I don't think anyone can argue this case anymore!"
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