The host cracked a joke and used his skills to ease the atmosphere a little.
Once she felt that was about right, she returned to the topic she had been discussing.
"Professor Wang, Ms. Hu just said that their chamber of commerce does not engage in monopolistic practices. Do you agree with her explanation?"
Wang Dequan snorted coldly.
"She is completely distorting the facts. As I just said, their actions will make it difficult for some small and medium-sized enterprises to survive. The economy of a country relies on all entrepreneurs working together with one heart and one mind. But what she does is more like the law of the jungle, the survival of the fittest, and the big fish eating the small fish. If companies like her dominate, many small and medium-sized enterprises will face bankruptcy. At that time, it will be difficult for all graduates to find jobs. What's the use of high salaries if there are no jobs? Those young people simply cannot find jobs! Aren't you deceiving them?"
The host nodded, then looked at Hu Ling; "Ms. Hu, regarding the issue Professor Wang raised, do you think it's possible?"
"Of course it will exist."
Hu Linghao admitted it without hesitation.
As soon as she admitted it, Wang Dequan immediately chimed in, "Since you admit to the problem I'm talking about, that means you admit you're monopolizing the market!"
Hu Ling glanced at him indifferently; "Wang Youcai, is it my turn to speak or yours?"
Wang Dezhi snorted and put his microphone away.
Hu Ling continued, "What I just said was an admission that the current employment environment is indeed very difficult, which is why I raised the wages of my employees."
At this moment, Wang Dequan wanted to speak, but he hesitated. Shen Xingang, who was next to him, took the microphone and questioned him: "President Hu, it seems that you did not understand what Professor Wang meant. The wage increase you mentioned actually reduces a lot of jobs. You have been in business for so many years, don't you understand this?"
Originally, the debate was between Hu Ling and Wang Dequan, but it changed after Shen Xingang took over. Shengli Group is the largest listed company in Donghai City by market value. Although Shen Xingang is not on the rich list, many people believe that he deliberately did not make it. If he were on the list, he should be the richest man in Donghai City.
Therefore, Shen Xingang's words naturally carry different weight than Wang Dequan's.
Hu Ling squinted at Shen Xingang.
"President Shen, so the Donghai City Chamber of Commerce opposes raising employee wages because you want to increase employment opportunities for employees?"
The phrase "increasing employment opportunities" would be a bit troublesome if Shen Xingang, in his capacity as a television personality, made a promise on television, because if he couldn't deliver, he would inevitably face criticism. Shen Xingang is not a television debater like Wang Dequan; he is an industrialist and entrepreneur, and his words should reflect a certain social responsibility.
Hu Ling was setting a trap for Shen Xingang, and Shen Xingang knew this, so he didn't admit it. Instead, he said, "When our Shengli Group was first established, it was just a small family workshop. It has grown from a small family workshop to a large company with a market value of over 100 billion over the past few decades. The number of employees has also grown from a dozen or so to tens of thousands. I dare not say that Shengli Group has made any huge contributions, although that is obvious to all. I just want to say that in terms of providing employment opportunities, we far surpass President Hu's Linglong Club. President Hu's Linglong Club only has one or two thousand employees, right?"
Hu Ling asked him about "job opportunities," so Shen Xingang turned the tables on her, trying to make everyone realize that Linglong Club was completely incomparable to Shengli Group in terms of scale.
Hu Ling chuckled. "President Shen does have more employees than us, but as far as I know, our employees' benefits are twice as good as those at President Shen's Shengli Group. Things are different now than before. In the past, people went out to work just to make a living. Now, if you go out to work just to make a living, then that mindset is far outdated."
If you talk to me about scale, I'll talk to you about compensation.
You say I'm disrupting unity? Then I'll say you're outdated. The conversation between the two bigwigs made the atmosphere on the field even more serious.
"Although our employees' welfare benefits still need to be improved, and we are working towards that goal, one of the responsibilities of a company is to guide people to be positive and motivated. Our Shengli Group is down-to-earth and takes things one step at a time. As for Mr. Hu's Linglong Club, well, to put it bluntly, it makes people indulge in pleasure, which is really not something a company should do."
When Hu Ling brought up treatment, Shen Xingang moved on to the spiritual level.
It means that your Linglong Club is a low-class establishment, and it can't compare to us at all.
Hu Ling wasn't annoyed by Shen Xin'ang's words. Instead, she slowly replied, "Our Linglong Club is currently reviving traditional culture. While reviving traditional culture, we are also helping some local businesses in Donghai City sell their products. Nowadays, many people use phrases like 'the West leads the world trend' to deceive everyone. What we insist on is national self-confidence. We bring out the artistic crystallization of our ancestors and offer it to everyone. While enjoying ourselves, we hope that people can remember where they came from. If our thinking can't be called positive and progressive, then what can be called positive and progressive?"
Shen Xingang was stunned by these words. He suddenly realized that Linglong Club was no longer the entertainment club that only provided massage and foot bath services. It had now become a tourist and cultural destination in Donghai City.
Seeing that Shen Xingang couldn't answer for a moment, Hu Ling continued, "As the saying goes, the Yangtze River's back waves push the front waves, and each generation is stronger than the last. In today's rapidly developing world, companies should emphasize a balance between work and rest, allowing everyone to work more happily, rather than blindly sticking to the old ways. Sticking to old ideas can be forgiven, but sticking to old wages is unforgivable, right, President Shen?"
Hu Ling pressed closer and closer, the pressure growing stronger with each step.
Shen Xingang frowned, hesitated for more than ten seconds, and then said, "Our company's salary is not low compared to the rest of the industry. President Hu said that our salary is outdated, which means he probably hasn't done a proper investigation. Your arbitrary statement is a bit like smearing us, isn't it?"
"Hehe, I'm sorry, Mr. Shen, we really did do an investigation!"
Hu Ling looked at Chen Zhe.
The two exchanged a glance.
Then the host asked the people waiting backstage to come over.
Shen Xingang was initially confused about what was going on.
But when they heard that those people were employees who had just left the Shengli Group, their expressions changed.
"Hu Ling, what do you mean by this?"
Shen Xingang questioned.
"Hehe, Mr. Shen, didn't you just say I didn't do any investigation? Well, I'll bring up the results now. These are employees who have worked at Shengli Group for several years. Have their salaries increased? What are their benefits like? We'll know by listening to their statements, won't we?"
Shen Xingang looked at the group of people with a somewhat unfriendly gaze. Upon meeting Shen Xingang's gaze, the group of people took a step back, appearing somewhat at a loss.
Hu Ling stood up, walked to their side, and handed the microphone to one of them.
After taking the microphone, the man took a breath and said, "Hello everyone, host, executives, and viewers. My name is Cao Feng, I'm thirty-six years old. I used to be an ordinary employee at a factory under the Shengli Group. I worked diligently there for eight years, rising from a basic assembly line operator to a team leader. My salary increased from 4,000 yuan to 8,000 yuan, but that was before tax. For someone like me with a family to support, it was still insignificant. My mortgage in my hometown is 4,000 yuan a month, and my two children's school fees are 2,000 yuan a month. After a month of hard work, I had nothing left. My wife had to work to supplement our living expenses... Even though I worked so hard, I persevered. But in the end, the company told us that the factory's performance was poor and they had to lay off some people. I was among those laid off. I haven't had a job for two months now, and I'm really panicking..."
After one person finished speaking, the next person took the microphone; "I was laid off after working at Shengli Group for three months. The reason given was that I didn't meet the job requirements, but I had done everything I could. I even voluntarily worked overtime every day. Not only did they not give us compensation, but they also deducted my salary. My internship salary was only 4,000 yuan, and after deductions, it was less than 2,500 yuan, but my monthly rent was 2,000 yuan..."
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After recounting their experiences, the invited individuals all complained about the Shengli Group's exploitation of its employees and its excessively low wages. This seemed to be a common problem, and many audience members deeply resonated with their sentiments.
Shen Xingang's face was dark and ugly.
He picked up the microphone and said, "I don't know where you found these people. Even if they were once employees of our Victory Group, they were the worst of the bunch. In this world, if you don't work hard, you won't eat. Instead of coming here to complain, they should look for the reasons within themselves! Have they worked hard? Have they completed the tasks assigned to them on time?"
Hu Ling replied with a smile, "So, Mr. Shen means that the weak don't deserve to live in this world, is that right?"
Shen Xingang was put on the spot by Hu Lin's words, but he couldn't deny it, because that was exactly what he meant.
"I just believe that only those who work harder deserve higher salaries!"
"Heh, ridiculous!"
Hu Ling said coldly.
"You define what we call hard work. In the rules you set, if you don't meet your requirements, you're accused of not working hard. So, can I tell you now, Shen Xingang, you have to become a woman. If you can't, then you're not working hard?"
Shen Xingang was enraged by Hu Ling's words.
"Hu Ling, are you making a personal attack on me?"
"I'm just stating the facts! In the current system of setting these rules, everyone is given work that is beyond their capabilities. The people above know they can't complete it, but they still insist on using these false targets. If every business owner is like you, treating employees like dirt, then what's the point of such a business?"
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