"This... there was no fight, so it's a debate?" Wang Yao was somewhat taken aback.
“How can it be called excessive self-defense if there’s no fight? Of course there was a fight. Quite a few students beat up your uncle back then. I heard that a group of female students were the most ruthless, pulling out quite a few strands of your uncle’s hair,” Qiu Dingxiong said in a serious tone.
"Oh dear, did my uncle hurt anyone?"
Wang Yao panicked when he heard this. He never expected that the incident at Changsheng University was so serious. He could almost picture the students rushing to beat Zhen Huai in the lecture hall. But how could those students be a match for Zhen Huai?
If Zhen Huai were to act impulsively, those students would be in big trouble. No wonder Qiu Dingxiong said that Zhen Huai's actions were excessive self-defense. I wonder to what extent it was excessive. I hope he doesn't kill anyone.
"Luckily, your uncle didn't make a move, otherwise the situation would have been much more serious!" Qiu Dingxiong snorted.
"No... I... my uncle didn't lay a hand on me? He just got beaten up? How... how can this be considered excessive self-defense?" Wang Yao blinked a few times, feeling like his brain wasn't quite working.
"Think about it, who is your uncle? He's a figure at the level of the founder of the Quanzhen Sect. Wherever he goes, he's a walking weapon. Even if seven or eight young people ganged up on him, they might not be a match for him. He openly got into a dispute with a group of well-mannered students at Changsheng University..."
"Fortunately, he didn't lay a hand on someone. Otherwise, it would have been intentional injury, or at the very least, excessive self-defense resulting in injury or death, which would have been much more serious!" Qiu Dingxiong said.
"So... if not defending yourself is considered excessive self-defense, then what constitutes legitimate self-defense?" Wang Yao found Qiu Dingxiong's reasoning rather absurd.
"Someone like your uncle never acts in self-defense. If someone beats him up, it's considered excessive self-defense!" Qiu Dingxiong said righteously. "What do you think self-defense is? Self-defense only exists between two ordinary people of average height..."
“Even if you are an ordinary person, if you are 20 pounds heavier than him, as long as the force of his punch to you does not exceed 20 pounds, it is considered excessive self-defense. Only if the force of his punch exceeds 20 pounds can it be considered legitimate self-defense.”
Qiu Dingxiong pointed to Zuo Han sitting to the side and explained to Wang Yao what legitimate self-defense was.
"For example, if his punch is 30 pounds, your counterattack force can only be controlled within 10 pounds to be considered legitimate self-defense. If it exceeds that, it is called excessive self-defense."
"But... what if the other party has a knife? What then?"
Wang Yao was truly astonished. This was the first time he had ever heard of such a bizarre thing. In that case, it was not unfair to say that Zhen Huai had acted excessively in self-defense. Those fat guys were the most unlucky ones. Their fighting ability was not good to begin with, and they were accused of excessive self-defense just because of their weight.
"Similarly, if the knife weighs one pound, then add one pound of weight to the person holding the knife."
"This...this is...can knives be sold by weight?" Wang Yao was dumbfounded.
"That's why you see those hooligans and thugs in Huadu, they love to carry knives the most, just because they can make a profit from it. Even if they stab someone, if they're not careful, it'll be considered excessive self-defense by the other party," Qiu Dingxiong said without changing his expression.
"Isn't this utter nonsense? If I get bullied, am I supposed to find a scale to weigh myself before I fight back? What if I get beaten up and then accused of excessive self-defense? Isn't this discrimination against fat people? The bully takes the advantage, and whoever strikes first is always right?"
Wang Yao was shocked when he heard the end. What kind of ridiculous rules were these? This was simply bullying fat people and honest folks, protecting criminals! With this system, who the hell would be a good Samaritan? If someone got beaten up, they'd be jailed for excessive self-defense if they weren't careful? What kind of bizarre logic was this?
"Therefore, there shouldn't be any such thing as legitimate self-defense!" Qiu Dingxiong continued his tirade. "This is a huge loophole in our human laws!"
"Just because you're a few pounds thinner doesn't mean you can settle every conflict privately! What's the point of having a police station then? Who gave you the right to protect yourself? You should go to the organization if you're harmed! We humans are a place with organizations and laws! Not some barbaric wilderness!"
"Besides, fat people have human rights too, right? They can't just take a beating without fighting back, can they? There's a weight loss craze in the human world right now, and rich fat people like to hire a couple of skinny guys as bodyguards. It's all because of this that a bunch of troublemakers are doing nothing but figuring out how to exploit loopholes in the law..."
"Nowadays, police stations are just for show, and violence is rampant in society. Fights and brawls are rampant despite repeated bans! This is all because of the flawed law of self-defense!"
Listening to Qiu Dingxiong's confident and eloquent arguments, Wang Yao couldn't help but shake his head deeply. He felt that these guys in Huadu must have lost their minds. He hadn't known about these rules before, but now that he did, he knew that in any dispute, one must strike first without hesitation.
Why? First of all, when blood is boiling over, no one will carefully calculate whether the other person's weight is higher or lower than their own. If the person who started the fight had that kind of brain, or was even mindful of that, the fight wouldn't have broken out.
Furthermore, after being attacked, there's no time to consider whether you can retaliate or whether it's possible to overreact. If you did that, you'd be dead already.
After all, fights happen in the blink of an eye. If someone beats you up, are you expected to calmly grab a pen and lay on the ground calculating whether you can retaliate, how to retaliate, and how to retaliate in the most appropriate way and with the most force? Isn't that just absurd?
Even if you are lighter than the other person and it's considered legitimate self-defense, if the other person attacks first and gets punched, aren't you still at a disadvantage? It's better to strike first and then accuse the other person of excessive self-defense. Anyone who isn't an idiot can figure that out.
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