Chapter 8 Extra: Post-World Forum 2
[Water] Ming Dynasty Hell Jokes Collection
LZ: LZ comes first. Zhu Yuanzhang’s grandson’s grandson was exterminated because he did not name his princesses according to the elements of gold, wood, water, fire and earth.
1L: Ever since Han Guilan's grave was discovered, Ming fans have become active again.
2L: Just trying to get attention. When have those fans who love the White Lotus Emperor ever argued for you?
3L: Since Xianzong is the Black Lotus, is this matter still controversial?
4L: No one thinks the LZ’s jokes are funny?
5L: I don’t understand, can someone explain it to me?
6L: Zhu stipulated the generation names of his descendants. The second character was fixed. For example, Judy's family was named Gaozhanqijianyou, Houzaiyichangyou, and the third character had to be a character with the radicals of wood, fire, earth, metal, or water, following the principle of the five elements. However, girls were not considered descendants and were free to be named. Thus, Zhu Yuhuan appeared.
7L: It is well known that fire overcomes metal.
8L: Eight Eight: ...
9L: Zhu Yuhuan's original name was not this. She changed it to ward off evil against her younger brother. This is also recorded in "Mingqian Yishi"
10L:? Why don’t you say it was done by the civil service group?
11L: This is the time to pull out this emoticon:
12L: This name was originally chosen by Emperor Renzong, meaning "the gods will shine brightly and prosper together with the country." Does it have anything to do with evil spirits? Weak netizens are selectively believing historical data again, preferring unofficial history to official history.
13L: Believing in unofficial history is a basic practice. Although there is no evidence, it is indeed more attractive in terms of plot twists and fun.
14L: Don’t be angry, just watch Lecture Room and you’ll feel better.
15L: What the above person said is even more infuriating.
16L: What on earth are you superstitious about? The Ming Dynasty didn't even consider taboos. Zhu Qizhen's eldest daughter was named Zhu Shuyuan, and Zhu Chongba never came out to strangle Zhu Qizhen to death.
17L: Zhu Yuhuan's reign title was still Yuanguang.
18L: As we all know, there are only zero offenses and countless offenses.
19L: It makes me laugh to death. The ministers thought of several era names for her to choose from, such as Shichang, Yanguang, and Longde. In the end, Zhu Yuhuan changed it to Yuanguang, which is another used era name.
20L: There is no way. Before the Ming Dynasty, some people changed the reign title at will. If you want to avoid repetition, you can only use something like Dawei Tianlong. It is too non-mainstream. Who can stand it?
21L: Yuan means the beginning, Huan means light, so it is very appropriate for the first female emperor of the Ming Dynasty to have this reign title.
22L: Xu Yun: Mom, please change me.
Zhu Yuhuan: Noono, I want this
Yu Qian: So what? Let her use it!
23L: Yu Shaobao, Zhu Yuhuan all confirmed bot
24L: That's not the case. When Emperor Xianzong wanted to make his sister a prince, Yu Qian stood up and rejected it. Although he was finally made the Prince of Ji, the overall power of the princes was curbed. If she hadn't allowed the princes to participate in the activities of the scholar-farmer-artisan and merchant classes after three generations, the princes would have rebelled long ago.
Reply: Those who jumped out to rebel had no strength, and the King of Xiang, who had the most say, didn't say a word.
Reply to the above: Because Zhu Yuhuan has no husband and children, the throne is still in the Zhu family. Besides, if Zhu Yuhuan does not become the emperor, the emperor will be him or Zhu Qiyu. Prince Xiang is not a fool.
Reply: This matter was mainly discussed with Yu Qian. Maybe it was a double act between the emperor and his ministers.
25L: Everyone is talking about Xianzong, is there no one telling the hellish joke about this temple name?
26L: Details
27L: The most famous person to bear the temple name Xianzong was actually Liu Zhuang. His parents had a typical harmonious relationship. Historical records record: "Emperor Ming was filial and loving by nature, and he yearned for his father endlessly. In the first month of the seventeenth year, while visiting the Yuan Mausoleum, he dreamed that the late emperor and the empress dowager were as happy as ever. Upon waking, he was overwhelmed with grief and could not sleep." However, the relationship between Zhu Yuhuan's parents can only be described as...
28L: It’s hell
29L: How bad is it?
30L: If you say it's bad, it's not to the point of openly tearing each other apart. They are both decent people, but if you compare them with Liu Xiu and Yin Lihua, they are far behind.
31L: I don’t want to be buried together. How bad is that?
32L: If you don't mention the temple name Xianzong, in that era, even if you might be accused of being unfilial, you still had to build a separate mausoleum for your mother. This is true filial love.
33L: The Ming Palace's internal history "Palace Records" mentioned that one day the Emperor (Xuan De) and the Empress had a quarrel, and the Empress even wanted to resign from the throne for the sake of the Princess (Zhu Yuhuan), so the Emperor left in anger.
Reply: These two really have a feeling of getting along for the sake of Xianzong
34L: I was so scared, I thought the queen was going to be beaten
Re: Kids, watch less martial arts and palace fighting movies
35L: Cihui never agreed with Zhu Zhanji's way of education. She liked the virtuous way. Zhu Yuhuan was the one who grew up crooked.
36L: Today's Ming fans joke: Cihui doesn't like her daughter's rebelliousness
37L: What's with all the sarcasm up there? It's clear that Zhu Zhanji and Empress Dowager Zhang had a greater influence on Emperor Xianzong. There's clear record of Emperor Xuande favoring his daughter.
38L: Zhu Yuhuan: Yes, my mom doesn't like my rebelliousness, and my dad is the best to me in the world, but I'm just a sword dealer and I love my mom so much. Are you satisfied now? Answer me! Look in my eyes! Tell me, why, why! Baby, why! Speak!
39L: I burst out laughing. The person above is keeping up with current affairs.
40L: I am dying of laughter. Some people really saw it. The mother and daughter had a deep affection, but they insisted on dragging Zhu Zhanji over. They kept saying how much Zhu Zhanji loved his daughter, so why didn't he just let his daughter inherit the throne? Zhu Yuhuan and the brat Zhu Qizhen, who made the greater contribution to your Ming Dynasty? It is obvious to the naked eye.
41L: Some fans are very pragmatic, they only talk about the good and not the bad, they think the good things are done by the emperor and the bad things are done by others
42L: Because no one cares about the dry bones in the grave [folds hands]
43L: To be honest, if Xianzong was a man, his reputation would be much better than it is now. He would have succeeded to the throne directly and logically, without being inexplicably accused of "coming to the throne illegitimately".
44L: He came to the position illegitimately, so is there any way to wash away the fact that he killed his own brother?
Reply: How can Zhu Qizhen be considered a brother? If they were born from the same mother, then he is a brother. Ask Xianzong if he is considered a brother.
45L: Zhu Yuhuan has the legitimate will of his father and the Empress Dowager. Although it does not mean that he will become the emperor, he can be the regent and govern the country. Since he has this foundation, why doesn't he become the emperor?
46L: Zhu Qiyu is capable, just ask him if he is willing to be one.
47L: Zhu Yuhuan: I rushed back to the capital at night, pointed my sword at the defenders, and entered the palace as if it were no one's home. Brother, are you touched?
Zhu Qiyu: Dare not move
48L: King Xiang’s example tells everyone not to stand out. The Zhu family doesn’t even let their own family members go.
49L: A two-part allegorical saying, Zhu Yuhuan shooting arrows
50L: Shooting from the Fortress
51L: I envy the talent of netizens
52L: Doesn't this hellish joke of Xianzong refer to another one? Jin Xianzong's young succession to the throne corresponds to Zhu Qizhen, and his childlessness corresponds to Zhu Yuhuan. What does it mean to kill two birds with one stone?
53L: This correspondence is too far-fetched, not as clever as Liu Zhuang's
54L: This is when the importance of daily records was demonstrated. In addition to expanding the power of the female officials in the harem and making them comparable to the Silijian, Xianzong restored the daily records to protect himself from future generations' nonsense...
55L: Isn’t this just conveying to the people around you what you have thought of long ago?
56L: A person can pretend for a lifetime, pretend until death, most people can't do it, but Zhu Yuhuan can do it, she is pretending and you have to admit it
57L: You agreed to tell jokes about hell, why aren’t you telling any of them?
58L: I stand on the grassland and look at Beijing~
59L: How dare you do that upstairs?
60L: The real joke in hell is not that in Zhu Qizhen’s real record, the two of them were very friendly and respectful to each other, but did Zhu Yuhuan kick Zhu Qizhen away with one kick?
61L: Where did it kick to?
62L: Wala
63L: Yesen brought Zhu Qizhen to knock on the door, intending to extort something like he did at the beginning. Unexpectedly, Zhu Yuhuan himself had already rushed over and shouted directly, "My brother could not bear the humiliation and died for his country. This is fake." He ordered the archers and the three camps to bombard the area below.
64L: This has to lead to some conspiracy theories. Either the person is real and Zhu Yuhuan lied on the spot in order to seize the throne, or the person is fake and Zhu Yuhuan can still distinguish the real from the fake from such a long distance.
65L: Isn't the above story about Zhu Yuhuan killing his brother to seize the throne? Why are you making all this nonsense?
66L: Xu Yun: So what? Anyway, I am your Majesty's loyal minister.
67L: Prince Xiang doesn’t care, Prince Luo doesn’t care, Queen Zhou doesn’t care, Yu Qian doesn’t care, Xu Yun doesn’t care, but netizens do care. Are you Zhu Qizhen?
68L: I am dying of laughter. Compared to who the emperor is, people like Yu Qian care more about whether the country can have a stable transition. Who would have thought that in modern life, netizens consider loyal ministers to be the emperor's bootlickers. As long as they are not loyal to the previous emperor, they are treacherous ministers and even become part of a conspiracy group. What kind of insults did Zhang Zhong, Xu Yun, Xue Xuan, Yu Qian and others receive? On the contrary, Hu Yi, Zhang Fu, and Xue Huan, who retreated behind the scenes and secretly supported Zhu Yuhuan, not only saved their own face, but were also praised by some people as Zhu Qizhen's loyal ministers.
69L: Some people put themselves in the emperor's perspective every day, and can only imagine conspiracy theories to stimulate their senses.
70L: It’s better to stand from Zhu Yuhuan’s perspective. Isn’t it unhappy that the princess becomes the emperor?
71L: Of course I am unhappy. Some people say Zhu Yuhuan is a loser, not knowing how to control military power, deal with salt and iron, or go to sea trade. They don't even look at how the princesses were treated during Zhu Yuhuan's time. Doing these things is just asking for trouble. Moreover, the expansion of the princesses' power only happened after Xianzong came to power. Some people started to mess around. Zhu Yuhuan did some business to accumulate capital, but now he is just selling hooks to merchants. Is this hatred for capitalists? Is it hatred for oneself who is not a capitalist?
72L: Poke! I hate that I am not the emperor! Obviously, any vested interest can say that everyone is guilty and the fault lies with me. But modern people put the blame on the emperor and accuse the feudal bureaucracy. Oh my god, it turns out that the emperor is not the largest feudal landlord class.
73L: Xu Yun, the most loyal dog under Emperor Xianzong, praised Emperor Xianzong so much in his notes that I felt embarrassed. So, being an emperor is not something that ordinary people can do, at least not those with thin skin.
74L: Xu Yun: It doesn’t matter, I will write Your Majesty as legitimate
75L: When they returned from the Luchuan battle, Jin Ying and Lu Qingxian praised them to Emperor Xianzong, and Zhu Yuanzhang was furious when he saw them (not really).
76L: Died of laughter, Zhu Yuhuan: I relied on this expertise when I was acting cute and coquettish to my great-grandfather.
77L: A true joke from hell belike:
Xianzong: I am the most filial to my great-grandfather, so I live with him face to face.
Taizong:?
78L: Live in Bengbu
79L: Xianzong: Don’t worry about why I live in the imperial mausoleum, just tell me whether I am filial or not.
80L: Although he was joking, Zhu Yuhuan's filial piety to the Zhu family was obvious to the naked eye. In later generations, the surname Zhu was still used.
81L: Actually, it was quite cruel. Zhu Yuhuan should have considered that if she and any other male heirs were born, most people would take the opportunity to use this matter to consume her, so she directly appointed Zhu Jianshen as the crown prince. But the problem was that Zhu Qizhen's reputation was completely ruined at the time. If Zhu Jianshen did not cut ties with Zhu Qizhen, the throne would fall to Zhu Qiuyu and his son. So Empress Dowager Zhou decided to let Zhu Jianshen recognize Zhu Yuhuan as the "mother queen" so that her son could become emperor.
82L: In the 12th year of Yuanguang, on the 40th birthday of Emperor Xianzong, Princess Yongqing ordered painters to draw a picture of the "Longevity Banquet", and Zhu Jianshen's world-famous painting "Me and My Four Mothers"
83L: Four women live in Bengbu, this is the real hell joke
84L: Empress Dowager Zhou is the biological mother, what do the others mean?
85L: Biological mother, Empress Dowager Zhou, foster mother, Han Guilan, Emperor mother, Zhu Yuhuan, bride, Wan Zhener
86L: Netizens are still good at talking
87L: And two aunts (mothers)
88L: In ancient times, there were six Emperor Pills. Today, there are six Jellyfish Pills (?)
89L: Among these six, Wan Zhen'er is the least troublesome one. Let alone Zhu Jianshen's love for his mother, when faced with a mother like Empress Dowager Zhou who desperately wants to be buried in the imperial mausoleum, an emperor mother like Zhu Yuhuan who has super-oppressive power, and a female prime minister mother like Han Guilan who has multiple responsibilities, it is hard not to fall into Sister Wan's arms...
90L: Wan Zhen'er was also manipulated by Empress Dowager Sun, otherwise she could have caught the female official's ride
91L: The real hell joke is obviously the British royal family joke predicted by netizens of Zhu Ming Dynasty
92L: What? I'm not a Ming fan, can someone explain?
93L: Didn’t everyone joke that the Queen would outlive the Crown Prince and then directly let her grandson take the throne? Zhu Yuhuan almost outlasted Zhu Jianshen as well.
94L: Fortunately, Zhu Jianshen was still the emperor for two years, otherwise Zhu Yuhuan would not be able to explain himself. I guess netizens will put the blame for Zhu Jianshen's death on her. The three words "Black Lotus" are really welded to her.
95L: Do you want to see the work and rest schedule of the Ming Dynasty's Liver Emperor? There are actually robots in the world that can strictly follow this schedule. Ming Dynasty technology is indeed world-leading...
96L: What kind of good person gets up early, practices swordplay and archery, eats a simple and pragmatic breakfast, and pays respects to his mother every day. After the morning court, he summons the cabinet to a meeting, handles government affairs, takes a short nap after lunch, then begins the imperial lecture. After the lecture, he goes to the Western Garden for horseback riding and archery. After riding and archery, he returns to the palace to call a meeting with the Silijian and the Six Shang. He has dinner with his mother, and he also checks on the crown prince's schoolwork and tests his knowledge. Finally, he returns home in the evening to listen to Han Guilan's report before going to bed... Few emperors after her could stick to this routine, and she persisted for more than 20 years, only reorganizing her time under the guidance of Xu Wangzhi in her fifties...
97L: That's right. Actually, I find it quite strange. The Yuanguang Diary clearly states that Zhu Yuhuan attached great importance to the training of several crown princes, especially Zhu Jianshen. When Zhu Jianshen was sick as a child, Zhu Yuhuan put aside his official duties to visit Zhu Jianshen and even asked Empress Xu to diagnose Zhu Jianshen's pulse (it is well known that there was only one person in the entire Ming Dynasty who could command Empress Xu). Empress Dowager Zhou was very moved.
98L: The short sentence above made me buy two pairs, light lily fragrance, beautiful and good mood
Re: Who is Empress Xu? Is Zhu Yuhuan really a female bronze...
Reply to the above: The female doctor Xu Wangzhi was honored as Empress Xu because of her outstanding medical skills, the compilation of medical books, the teaching of countless students, and most importantly, her good relationship with the emperor. Empress Xu is essentially a respectful title and has nothing to do with whether she was a concubine or not...
99L: I am impressed by you guys who are into this. You are so good at it.
100L: Because Zhou was crying and making a fuss about wanting to be buried in Zhu Yuhuan's mausoleum (hesitantly). Since Empress Dowager Sun, there has been a precedent for non-empresses being buried with the emperor. Zhou should have gone there to live and die with Zhu Qizhen (?)
101L: Nonsense, Zhu Qizhen's reputation, and it's just a cenotaph, not within the scope of the Ming Emperor's Mausoleum. Apart from the honest Queen Qian who is willing to be buried with him, who else would want to be buried with him? I can't afford to lose this person...
102L: I'm convinced. What kind of logic is Queen Zhou using? Which good person would enter his sister's imperial tomb? Even Prince Ji was speechless after seeing this.
103L: After all, that was Zhu Yuhuan, it was understandable that he made a mistake towards his sister.
104L: Upstairs you...
105L: There are already several crown princes. How could Xianzong really love Xianzong? It is better to say that she believes in "the competent one gets the throne". Whoever is not good enough should go to the side and not interfere in the affairs of the throne.
106L: The revision of the Ming Dynasty inheritance law started with Zhu Yuhuan. The eldest son inheritance system was basically in name only. Zhu Yuhuan directly sent princesses and princes to inspect the work in various places, and then reported back to Beijing. He perfectly combined the three tasks of Beijing inspection, official governor and crown prince training. Maybe Zhu Yuhuan also secretly prepared little red flowers, giving extra points to those who performed well.
107L: Zhu Yuhuan took in all of Zhu Jianshen's children and only raised his two daughters. This shows that Zhu Jianshen's sons were either physically or mentally deficient.
108L: She is right. The life span of Zhu family men is really short. But the Ming Zhongzong, a woman, gave birth to two sons and two daughters and lived to be 71 years old. The life span of other women is much longer than that of men of the same age... It is true that a good body determines a woman's life span.
109L: Zhu Yuhuan starts the Battle Royale in Ming Palace (?)
110L: Hilarious
111L: You are so happy that Xianmiao is going to be filming a TV series. But be careful.
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